Wednesday, May 02, 2012

Human Resources WNTD #5308 - Go Gangsta about your compensation

As many of you know, I've been in H. R-uh for over 15 years. I've seen and heard a lot of good, a lot of bad and a lot of ugly. So every now and again, I like to share from the HR What Not To Do files for your education and entertainment. Usually though, I'm not the subject of the WNTD.

However, I have been fed up with my overall compensation package for a minute. Every time I tried to address it, I was diverted/shuffled/shutdown and basically foiled at every turn. So I waited until after performance appraisals were completed and I "succeeded expectations" across the board. I waited until they announced the well-over-projected profits on the recruiting project I handled solo for the majority of the year. And then I waited until I had other options lined up in case this discussion did not go well. Then I scheduled time on the Project Director's calendar to discuss my "career progression" and sent her an agenda of what I wanted to discuss.

Now all of that is the right way to launch a discussion about salary. Almost textbook in fact. What happened next... is not. 

I had a whole intro and a speech put together but by the time we wrapped up the chitchat, all I could say was - 'This is way too much work for way too little money. You can pay me more, work me less, or put me on another account where they will pay me more or work me less but I've hit the wall. So what's it going to be?"

**dead silence** And then finally she says, "How much more are we talking about?"

#Score! I named an outlandishly high number, she named a number that was what I really wanted all along and we agreed. Two hours later I received an email confirming my new comp. Bougie Gangsta. (Don't try this at home, folks)

BougieLand, have you asked for a raise before? How did it go and what did you learn? The floor is yours...

29 comments:

Mina B. said...

KUDOS to you!!!!!

This is a skill I need to learn..instead I just got a 2nd job :\ 

Michele said...

Congrats to you! 

Several years back I didn't actually ask for a raise but I did bring something to my manager's attention.  The company was advertising for more admistrators and the starting salary was posted as $10k more than what I was earning.  And I had been in the position for several years and wouldn't be considered "starting".  So I said to him, "I find it interesting that ..." A week later I received an out-of-cycle increase and at evaluation time I received a promotion and another raise.  Score!

MidWestDominicana said...

Congrats!! I work in HR, too and have found that they know exactly how to redirect. Way to go, Chele!

Chriscogmta said...

I wish a motha sucka would come in my office with an agenda asking for a raise.  Coming at me with all your ducks in arow, what!!!

That would make my life so much easier than the cats that hem and haw, beating around the worlds largest bush! Then they leave and say it's cause of the pay, nah homie, it's cause you didn't pull a "OneChele" (it's now a term in my Book-a-Words) and show and prove!!

I'm sharing this with the pit!

thinklikeRiley said...

So what u sayin' is - busting in Boss Man's office and screaming "Where my money at?" won't work?!

Londa said...

Congratulations Chele! 

Note to self: "Hire this Bougie Goddess when I'm ready to for a personal agent."

AnnettePearl said...

Hmm - I may need to attend a clinic if you are giving them. I got my performance appraisal and asked "Is there a merit increase attached to this?" He looked at me and said "Maybe somewhere down the line". Two months later they broke off 1.8% "cost of living" increase - thank you for that extra tank of gas :-/

MochaMuffin said...

 +1 sir.
*steals "pulling a OneChele"*

M Dot said...

You played it right. you were tired and you could bring it to them that way because you had plan B, C, and D.  It sucks that you had to go ask for your money, but that's how most people play themselves out (and companies are more than willing to let them do it).

Iced out BnB medallions for everyone!  Chele's buying.

CaliGirlED said...

 "beating around the worlds largest bush"...LOVE IT!!!

Jason P said...

 Right?! I read this and thought - oh, I'm doing it wrong.

Mo said...

Listen, we did self-evaluation last year and they asked us to put what we expect for raise for 2012. I did,  and they came back  to us 3 months later with 1.5% raise and  $ 600.00 bonus . I wish they  made that 1.5% raise a  bonus too.

Congratulations Chele!

CaliGirlED said...

' ' '\O/' ' ' *throws confetti everywhere for our bougiegansta*

Notes have been taken!!!

My similar story, not NEARLY as gangsta, goes like this. When I moved to Houston I had narry a job nor prospect for one. I signed up with about 7 temp agencies, prior to moving. My 3rd week here I was put on an assignment to fill a position while they took in applications. However they didn't want to hire through the agency and pay the fee. After proving myself competent, efficient, and able to get MIKE wrapped around my pinky, I went to the office manager with this. "I am interested in applying for this position. I know you do not want to pay the fee, so what if I offer to split the fee with you?"...She was shocked and impressed. She offered me the position, without splitting the fee, and brought me in slightly higher than they would had I not already proven myself.

I was shocked myself, but thanks to the advice of my friend and her husband, here I sit 2-1/2 years later!

TrulyPC said...

Congrats!!!  

When I worked in the mortgage industry I worked my butt off.  I enrolled in training, trained others, cross-trained, worked late, worked weekends in order to keep our "team" on track to meet expected projections.  We exceeded them by 20%.  The manager (who was new to the company) was ecstatic and received a bonus.  I was expecting a promotion and monetary compensation.  

I should mention that I trained everyone on the team of 8 except for one person.  She promoted a person that I trained and who was still in training but happened to be her daughter's BFF.  I remained composed (although the rest of the team gasped) and formulated an email requesting a meeting.  I wasn't exactly Bougie Gangsta.  It didn't reach 4-alarm but it was a 3 by the end.  The meeting ended with her saying that something was in "the works".  

Oh and she asked me to continue to train the promoted individual.  "Only when hell gets an ice rink."  Yes.  It a risk but I really didn't care at that point.  A few weeks later I got a 2% raise and a promise of a next cycle promotion the following year.  So, I interviewed for a new position, put in for vacation time and submitted my 2-week notice so that the second week coincided with the start of my vacation.  She tried to get me to stay but I was through with it.   

Andrea M said...

Oh see - that's why you bougie. I just wait for someone to do right by me and then when they don't I go get a new job.
*takes notes*

Jubi The Great said...

I'm relatively young in my career (only working 6yrs) so I'm taking notes. So far I haven't had to ask for a raise, in fact, I've done quite well in that area. My current issue is that 1) I hate my specific job; 2) I want to change careers but no one is biting. Any tips?

CaliGirlED said...

 Right! LOL

GrownAzzMan said...

@OneChele for the win!

Only1DivaC said...

First congratulations!! Second, this is a classic Negotiations 101 case study. I'm taking notes for promotion time early next year.

DCbywayofCali said...

There is no extra dough in education, so instead I negotiated my time.  I have the ability to hold dual roles on my campus w/o making up any time in my primary role.

Folks don't forget to negotiate side perks if you can't get extra money.

blackprofessor said...

I am up for a promotion in the near future; already written my "keep me here and happy" list.  I thought I might be doing too much but this post provided all the affirmation I needed.  Thanks Chele!

Jeannette said...

Lemme hold $40

OneChele said...

Ha! I'll fling it out the window as your pass your spot this weekend :)

SingLikeSassy said...

You know, as I read this I realized, I've never asked for a raise.  I DO hard negotiate when I get a new job though cause my daddy told me to get all you can going in the door. But I've always gotten them, they are usually good and before my work ethic and performance dips from boredom consequently playing havoc on my money, I usually jump ship to something else I am excited about that also pays more.

GammasWorld said...

Y'all sure we ain't' at the same gig?  I'm giving them exactly 1.65% extra effort LOL 

Marioned said...

Congrats!!!!!

  I have asked for a promotion and you are right you have to prove your worth.  Once at a much tender age I low balled and thankfully my Manager upped the ante.  The last 10 years have gone well. Being in Finance and having a hand on the pulse of the organization helps.  My goal now is to get paid well and not work hard!! 

Missk Roberts said...

Funny I read this today, as I am in the posion to ask for a raise right now! I'm in HR as well, and also moonlight in many other areas, not related to HR. I let my opportunity walk out the door this morning when my CEO left early for the day. I needed to read this to up my confidence for tomorrow. I've been putting it off for  far too long now!

Great blog, great post with great advice!!

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