Saturday, August 13, 2011

Saturday Music Spotlight - Not Ready to Throne Watch

Watch The Throne Album Cover
I like rap, I really do. I wouldn't call myself a hip-hop head by any stretch of the imagination but maybe an enthusiast. I'm definitely more of a NeoSoul chick but who can get their treadmill flow on to Musiq and Maxwell? I have hip hop moods where nothing else will do. I've found that there's no telling what I will like and what I won't and I never know what will grow me.

This week Zeezy and Yeezy (Jay-Z and Kanye) dropped Watch the Throne. The definitive "We've made it, we're rich, and you know you're going to buy it" album. I'm not mad at them. But based on what I've heard so far, a lot of it is going to have to grow on me. Particularly this cut, Otis. I like parts of it but I'm waiting on the whole thing to come together where I'll turn the volume up and scream "that's my song"! Check it out:

 

The lyrics are throwback to the late 90s/early 00's when rap got very shiny and blingy. I'm also not sure I like how they used the sample of the late great Mr. Redding's Try a Little Tenderness but maybe it'll sneak up on me. BougieLand, whatcha think?

34 comments:

Jason P said...

I don't hate it. I don't love it. Meh...

Page Bartlett said...

I'll take Pretentious Rap for $1000, Alex.

Singlelif said...

I'm not a great person to ask.  I will buy whatever these two individuals put out - individually or collectively. #I'mFromBedStuy

Reecie said...

I think its a good album, but not a great one. I still bought my copy though because I am a hip hop head and Jay-Z stan. I don't see a lot of it I see being major singles (I think the song with Beyonce is the next one) but I've been told by quite a few its good for a gym mix if that's what you want to use it for. 

CaliGirlED said...

Hate the Otis Redding song as background. But as I really gave a few of the verses a good listening to, I can appreciate the message of (as I took it) "Haha look at us now, in your face, with your money and with your women" thing.

As JasonP said, don't love it, don't hate it.

Big October said...

The title of the post says it all. Good one
Chele. *high fives*

Watch The Throne is a good album but it’s not
remarkable. It just doesn’t live up to the hype. No Church In The Wild, N*ggas
in Paris and Gotta Have it are the best songs on the album and Otis sounds like
a throwaway Kanye beat from the The College Dropout days. I’m a Jay-Z fan (
BK stand up!) and Kanye is a musical visionary but I’m sick of hearing albums
full of rich nigga scriptures.  I thought
they would come better, sadly, they didn’t.

To make matters worse, idiots on Twitter are
making ridiculous assertions like “This is the greatest album of all time and this
album is better than Miles Davis’ entire catalog.” (Yes, they really are.) If
we compare it to the last two albums from each artist, it’s better than The
Blueprint 3 (which sucked hard in my opinion) and doesn’t come anywhere close
to MBDTF. (A sophisticated and gorgeous work of art) Sonically, it’s decent but
lyrically they aren’t saying anything new or different and it sounds like a
Kanye West album with Jay-Z on it. I gave it a fair amount of listens and
concluded that if I didn’t hear it again, I’m good, B.

OneChele said...

I don't understand. How does one compare Z/Ye with Miles Davis?! You don't. Ever. Total FAIL. Uggh. That's not even apples to oranges. That's strawberries to sirloin. Two entire different categories of flavor.

William Martin said...

I always had a lot of Otis, Marvin, Smokey, Sam, playing in the house growing up so I'm... torn about this. On the one hand, nice to give props to O who was an instant classic. On the other, this isn't the deepest most thought provoking song I've ever heard nor is it "fun" necessarily. Like you said, maybe it will grow on me.

Big October said...

The night this album was released tweeple were going crazy, dissecting, critiquing, analyzing and worshiping it. I got a hold of a copy and listened to the whole thing and I just didn't get it. I log in the next day and saw that  idiotic tweet, I tweeted the back "you're being facetious right?" 

Big October said...

Brookyn Stand Up!

Singlelif said...

I have it, but I've only listened to Otis so far.  I will keep this review in mind as I listen.

CaliGirlED said...

“This is the greatest album of all time and this album is better than Miles Davis’ entire catalog.” (Yes, they really are.)...Why are you lyin on those people??? I will not believe anyone made such a comparison!

CaliGirlED said...

I hope it doesn't grow on me! And since I don't really listen to the radio or watch videos, I just may be able to prevent that from happening.

CaliGirlED said...

Thanks for this post Chele! I sometimes feel bad because I never know what folks are hyping about and I often times feel out of the loop. Prior to your post I really didn't know what this Otis and Watching the Throne stuff was about. (shamefully clueless) So when I saw your post I decided to take a listen...Yep I feel it is safe for me to crawl back into my hole and remain on the "late freight".

Big October said...

I keep it 103. They tweeted those things I promise you.

Lady4Real said...

I loved it.

Lady4Real said...

I'm waiting to hear it in the club. I'm from Baltimore and we love Jay-Z and Kanye. The hubs and I love Yeezyand Hov. To each his own

BlackButterfly said...

Ha!  I guess I am the odd person out because I would rather have my eardrums fall out than to allow this to grow on me.

CaliGirlED said...

LOL

BlackButterfly said...

You know what it is.  I think so many get caught up in the beat that they don't take the time to really pay attention to the lyrics!  I just don't want to believe that people REALLY listening to the lyrics of this song could see it as anything worthwhile.  Most of the time I just want the beat and leave out the lyrics because the lyrics are garbage. 

CaliGirlED said...

Wondering why they used Otis Redding's song kept me from even listening to the actual lyrics at first. So when I did tune in to what they were saying, I just assumed they were throwing their success in the white man's face. I don't know. Maybe someone will enlighten me on what they're really talking about, and maybe not. Won't bother me none if I stay in the dark.

sol_dier said...

Its okay. I like the Otis beat. But this album = not great for me, yet.


I suppose a lot of people read Jay's decoded so they now have the right key to his musical lock?. Makes them closer to the artistry of the artist.
one thing though, I was beyond tired of the 'N-word' flinging on this album. It just seemed OTT. Maybe cos I know both Jay and 'Ye are very well read ..
maybe this is their real Farewell Jay album. (Can't see him making another one after this)

bkbisous said...

It really didn't do it for me. I listened to most of the album-- which is a LOT for me when it comes to more mainstream rap albums, and the music/ beat is great, but neither Z or Ye went as hard as I expected, lyrically.

I really wanted to like "Otis", but I'm gonna have to pass.  My favorite thing about the hold album was the embracing of the Illuminati rumors with the artwork; that's what I figure it alludes to, at least.

sol_dier said...

Yeah, I still like both blueprint3 and MBDTF better.  I think I need a few more listens. 


But I agree with you, this album doesn't feel 'hard' but then I don't really expect that from Jay anymore, and I'd appreciate 'Ye chilling off the 'woe is me' any day.

Shrug, it makes my gym list for now.

GuessImJay said...

It's growing on me. I don't think it's Jay's best or Ye's best but it's pretty good. The fact that the two of them put out a semi-okay album and it's still far and away better than just about everything else that's out right now - tells you what you need to know.

I do agree, this is shiny "we've made" it rap but I'm okay with that. It would be completely unauthentic for the two of them to still rap about the struggle. What struggle might that be? Which Maybach to push? This is fine.

Natasha Hunter said...

Otis may be the weakest track on the cd. As a major fan of Hov, and a "eh" fan of 'Ye. I did not want to Watch the Throne. I thought it was gonna be a bunch of a**holeness. So I purchased it, not wanting to like it.

I like it a lot.

BP3 is cool, but me likes the first one and American Gangster. They have permanent residency in the changer.

Natasha Hunter said...

The best way to become a fan is to NOT listen to the the radio or watch videos, then you can form your own opinion and listen to what YOU want to listen to and not what's pumped into your mind.

 When I first heard Reasonable Doubt it was September 1996, picked it up on a whim and got on the hottest Greyhound bus ride from VA to AR. been hooked ever since...  minus Life and Times Vol. 1. I think when he said "*igga please, like short sleeves I bear/bare arms" (it was '96 yah'll)  I was hooked.

Just felt like sharing this gorgeous Sunday. : )

Natasha Hunter said...

I really do believe 'Ye umm.... dilutes Hov.

GrownAzzMan said...

I'm in the like it don't love it yet category. Fact is I have only heard the whole CD once so it's too soon to tell. So far I like Otis (very creative) and I give them props for an ambitious collaboration. We will see how I feel about it in a few more listens.

Constance Burris said...

I'm cheap.  I'm waiting for the price to drop a little before I buy it from Amazon.  But I love Kanye and it's only a matter of time before I get it.  

bashowell said...

I love this.  It's one of those that grows on me w/each listen.  First listen "it's aight".  But w/each consecutive listen I find something new.  Right now my favorites are "Ni**gas in Paris", "Made in America" and "H.a.m.".  I still don't love it as much as MBDTF but it's close.

Singlelif said...

It's even better if you "get" the subliminals..,,Jays music is always "chock full of" subliminals..

Vonne716 said...

I thought that I was the only one.  I listened to the entire album and was very disappointed.  It was definitely a "We've made it, we're rich, and you know you're going to buy it" album.

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