Monday, February 28, 2011

Bougie Bachelorette Chronicles - Episode 6: Donny Hathaway ruined my date


Fresh off Friday night's fail, the Bougie Bachelorette ventured out for drinks at a lovely wine spot with a potential S.O. Forty two, six two, gave good phone. We'll call this one Paul. Paul was a friend of a friend. We had met a few years back and kept in peripheral-type touch. (He would ask his friends how I was, I would ask his friends how he was) When he heard I was single (again!), he put in a call.

Here's the beauty of the early evening wine date - you get there around 6:00pm. You have time to get an appetizer and a glass (or two) of wine before deciding if you want it to morph into dinner. Or you can beg off saying you have something else to do later that night if the sip~n~smile doesn't go as planned.

So we're sipping 'n smiling when the music changed to a kind of neo-soul, smooth jazz set. We started talking about music. He said that he is a "music aficionado" and considered himself a student of "multiple genres and subsets". [A-ight then] The Kirk Whalum/Lalah Hathaway collab "It's what I do" came on and I got all mushy. Listen to the lyrics and delivery and tell me that isn't just a gorgeous song?


Anyway... in the midst of discussing my Lalah-love, I said "she has very distinctive phrasing, like her father." To which Paul said, "Oh did her father sing too?" Every table (full of white and black people) fell quiet while people gave him the side-eye of life. I decided to assume he just didn't get who I was talking about so I helpfully supplied, "Donny Hathaway."

He said, "Never heard of him." The waiter refilling our wine paused and sent me a look like, "Girl, get out now."

Forty two year old black man calling himself a music aficionado [with the subsets and genres and whatnot], a fan of Lalah's and had never heard of Donny?! When I tweeted this, Ms. Lalah herself laughed and sent me the Price is Right Fail sound. Someone else said it was like calling Laila Ali a great boxer and having someone ask who her father was. What next? Calling Jaden Smith a good actor and not knowing who Will is?! *kicks over trashcan in minor rant*

Moving on...

So as I'm sipping this wine, (gathering myself) I think - you can't rule someone out for not knowing Donny Hathaway, Chele. You can. not. So I tried a different tack, "Well who do think is the best artist out there right now?"

Wait for it...

This ninja said Drake. And then started quoting Drake lyrics. As Deion Sanders says, #HOP (Hold On Playa!) - you can quote Drake but don't know who wrote and sang The Ghetto, A Song for You, at the very least This Christmas! I just... 

I was stunned speechless. I couldn't even fake it. He got tart and decided to try and prove a point. He leaned over to a table with three black guys probably in their mid-forties early fifties and asked, "Do you guys know who Donny Hathaway is?" Immediately one guy said, "Legendary, died too soon, went to Howard." Another one said, "His duets with Roberta Flack, man?" And the third one said, "Lalah's dad, Talkin' bout the GhettoThis Christmas, c'mon!" 

So I asked the same three guys, "Can you name Drake's last three hits?" The responses I got back, "Which one is he? The neighbors know his name boy?" "Do he sing or rap?" "Is he on that cut with Lil Wayne before he went to jail? Wait - Best he ever had - right?"

Paul responded, "Well not everyone is as up to date on cutting edge music as I am."

One of the guys said, "If Drake is cutting edge, just leave me with the old school."

**CHECK PLEASE** I rested my case. Grown folks know grown folks music. No shade to Drake. I wouldn't call myself a literary expert and not know who Shakespeare is or Langston Hughes! I wouldn't call myself a foodie and not know the difference between collards and arugula. Woo-sah. 

I'm not saying I won't go out with him again (I don't know, I don't know). But the night was definitely done. What say you BougieLand? Thoughts, comments, insights? 

P.S. And if you need to step up your Donny Hathaway game, please do so!

185 comments:

ConvertingMe said...

Sweet Jesus on a stick! I have to pass on commenting....I can't compute thinking Drake is the best artist of any genre subset, etc. *mind is now the white screen of death*

rozb said...

I cannot comprehend a forty-something ninja NOT knowing who Donny Hathaway was. S.N.O.B. Or even ghetto. Ghetto fab 40-somethings know Donny!

That's like saying "I am a connoisseur of fine Italian food and wines. Come on over for dinner." When you sit at the table, something smells familiar from your childhood, and the ninja says "Voila! Here we have some Chef Boyardee Spaghetti-Os with - wait for it - meatballs. Put 'em on another plate so you can put as many as you want on yours. And to wash it all down, here is some Boone's Farm Grape Drink. It has that Chianti flair without all that trouble with the cork and ish. Drink up, baby!"

Dude was an uber-FAIL!

Jubilance said...

I'm really stuck on a forty-something man saying that the best artist out there is Drake. Like seriously? Full disclosure: Jubi stans for Drake, it is a well-known & documented fact. But I would never ever ever go as far as to say Drake is the best artist out there. That just seems so.....WRONG. ESPECIALLY for a man who is old enough to know better & was around when really great music was the norm on the radio.

Clearly he thought he could impress you by saying he was a "music aficionado". Does he even know what aficionado means? Maybe he needs a dictionary & a clue. I wonder how many women fall for that line & think he's so intelligent & cosmopolitan & whatnot.

soldier said...

you can't rule someone out for not knowing Donny Hathaway

Bougie people please say it with me.... YES WE CAN!
That's why I'm singing this sooong for you...

MidWestDominicana said...

Shouldn't someone pour out a little liquor for this date?

OSHH said...

SMH, and WOW @ What a lame a$$ bama, with no clue.

soldier said...

He just reads like the 'older' dude who tries to hit me up in the club by telling me how much he likes 'whats in the charts right now'.
Sorry but that stuff is good for club dancing, but for home time? you must know your old school stuff. I've put that one in practise since my teens.

J B said...

Wait for it......but does he like sports?

bkbisous said...

All I have to say is "woo-sah," indeed.

bkbisous said...

Hold up-- Bama knows Donny!

michaeldavis said...

This date was brought to you by blankstare.com I didn't know this model existed. Even if all you knew was 'This Christmas'...exactly what was going on in his life that be wouldn't know that song; that is our Christmas ANTHEM (secular division).

If this date was Monopoly dude would be sent to relationship jail with no chance of parole and be forced to room with Diabla from Beyond Scared Straight.

If the Drop Squad actually existed this dude would be Eriq LaSalle.

As if that wasn't enough he followed it up with Drake is his favorite artist. Were you out on a date with Baby from Cash Money Records?

michaeldavis said...

I am somewhat torn on which offense is worse. Not knowing Donny won out, but Drake?

Just_A_Thought1218 said...

1. I'm so jealous that you got a tweet from Lalah Hathaway.
2. I laughed out loud, disturbing the cube farm, when I heard the Price is Right sound in my head. Y'all ain't right.
3. And now for the matter at hand. I thought the purpose of dating a grown arse man was that you would presumably be dealing with a grown arse man. If you wanted a Drake listening, soul/jazz ignorant young buck, they are in plentiful supply and you would have gotten one. But no. You went out with dude because his representative seemed to be a grown arse man. AHNT!

I guess you could give him a chance to show that he isn't stuck on some young fool BS. This could be a minor (major?) flaw in an otherwise good catch. And tall is hard to come by. But I'm inclined to say chuck the deuces, because if he doesn't have the same cultural capital that you do, then he likely isn't on the same page that you are. And you are definitely too grown for that.

Penny said...

Just asking, if he had not proclaimed his "aficionado" status, would you still have given him the side-eye?

Ms_Smart said...

Does he date young women? That's the only reason I could think that he would think knowing about Drake is a good thing for a man of his age.

CaliGirlED said...

Walk away now!!! Let me see what the others had to say.

JojoRaze said...

Before, I deal with Mr. Fail, I want to say thanks for the heads up on Injustice Files. I'm dvr-ing and watching it. But Chele, I rebuke you for this SNoB tale! You have me in the Starbucks (free wi-fi; don't judge me I'm a poor grad student) laughing my head off and folks looking at me like I'm crazy. Saying Drake is the best artist out there right now is a serious fail worthy of immediate termination of sip-n-smile.

Full disclosure: I am under 30 and I only listen to gospel BUT I know who Donny Hathaway is only from "This Christmas" but I knew Lalah Hathaway was his daughter. I also know that Donny Hathaway is the Holy Grail of good black music along with Stevie Wonder, Motown, and basically all the black legends who sang from the 1950s onward. For a 42 year-old black man to not know who Donny Hathaway is a terminal fail!

CaliGirlED said...

YES WE CAN!!! Soldier, that's why I gave my comment first and then read the comments. I am starting to get real good at letting go EARLY before too much unnecessary stuff starts to come out! I.don't.have.time.

JojoRaze said...

I have to go with saying Drake is the greatest is the larger offense. You might not listen to R&B music, but he could have named another good artist/group like The Rolling Stones or the Beatles. Knowing Drake and not knowing Donny is worst!

CaliGirlED said...

Let me just say that this is not the only area where he will pump himself up to later prove to be a major FAIL. Aficionado, really?...I just had to correct my 13 year old for using a word improperly. But she's 13!

Chele he's a PRETENDER! You will eventually become so annoyed with him that you would rather scratch out your eye balls than answer the phone when he calls.

What man over 40 would choose Drake as his favorite artist, besides Drake's father?!!

JojoRaze said...

It would be a waste of liquor, girl.

Joycelyn Curry said...

People kill me with these extra titles! He should have never tried to sell himself as an aficionado, really with no knowledge of Donny Hathaway? Next time just say you like music sir.

I just had to blank stare a friend of mine who is somewhat militant about all things black people when I mentioned in passing the talented tenth and she asked me what I was talking about. And she claims to have read W.E.B. Du Bois. Lucky for her she was on the phone and therefore could not see the serious blank stare I cast her.

soldier said...

Saddest thing here is, I will guarantee that 'Drake the artist' not only knows who Donny and Lalah are, but probably has their back catalogue.
These artists, 'dig in the crates' for their hooks, samples and stuff.
Second hand filtering is not on the bougie list

superwoman said...

I decided to assume he just didn't get who I was talking about so I helpfully supplied, "Donny Hathaway."

He said, "Never heard of him." The waiter refilling our wine paused and sent me a look like, "Girl, get out now."

Bua ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!! i LOVE LOVE LOVE it when the waiters get involved, coz the situ's just too crazy to ignore!! ha ha ha ha, i'm TOO killed!!!

Jazzy Jazz said...

Um im 23 and I even know who Donny Hathaway is . And Drake being the best artist #FAIL. He couldnt have said Adele , Chrisette Michele, Marsha Ambrosius , Luther etc.

Sir step your game up, and go on Youtube so you can never embarass yourself like this again . If you have to boast about being something , most likely you arent.

GrownAzzMan said...

Chele you sure can pick 'em...LOL If he hadn't overstate his music knowledge I would cut him some slack but under the circumstances I urge you to click NEXT.

Natasha Hunter said...

Now THIS was funny...and tragic.

Natasha Hunter said...

People sleep on Adele, one of the purest voices out there to me.

GrownAzzMan said...

Not the good stuff though...LOL

Natasha Hunter said...

and I'm extra upset he quoted the lyrics.

mutemia said...

LMAO!!

taut_7 said...

even i know who donny hathaway is and listen to his music and i'm only 29.

drake? is he serious? cutting edge? come on b. dude should be ashamed of himself. there ain't one thing cutting edge about drake. even if you just listen to rap he's not even top 10 in the game right now. and i'm so serious when i say that.

Jasmin said...

Love her!

Jasmin said...

Who doesn't know Donny Hathaway? "This Christmas" was always a part of the holiday sing-and-dance marathon when my sisters and I were kids. Tisk, tisk...

Penny said...

Maybe he associates the song "This Christmas" with the Chris Brown version-from the movie "This Christmas." Aren't Drake and Chris in the same subset?

rozb said...

Maybe Drake's uncles? 8/

rozb said...

I bet even Justin Bieber knows who Donny Hathaway is!

CaliGirlED said...

He would absolutely credit Chris Brown for This Christmas! SMDH

CaliGirlED said...

EXTRA!!!

CaliGirlED said...

I soooo agree!!!

MichelleG said...

Good Monday Morning Bougieland! On the positive side - that is a beautiful song - thank you for introducing it to (me) us. (I can't find the collab version on line - if someone see's it please post).

Everyone else has addressed the big fat fail - just wanted to add some sunshine to a rainy Monday. :)

CaliGirlED said...

We must be careful of the titles we bestow upon ourselves. As someone stated below, they usually aren't true!

I would have given him a pass on not being able to state a Donny Hathaway song, but to say "Never heard of him". GTFOH!!!....I'm good for forgetting or not knowing who sings something. (Well not so much with old school, but with today's music). So I would have let him slide by if he just didn't know that was Lalah's father or the titles of the songs he sung. But I would have been keeping a close OPEN eye for future fails.

thinklikeRiley said...

Imma create an app just for ninjas like dis right here: Instant BlackCard Removal App
Cuz nah suh - you ain't black and don't know bout Donny. No. Fu** no!
*prepares Bougie Drop Squad for deployment*

Pure Choco said...

RozB - I love you like a play cuzzo - how you brought that pale Usher WannaBe up into BougieLand?!
BWAHAHAH!

Grace said...

Damn! Pretentious-ass negroes stay shooting themselves in the foot. Or the ass. Either one.

FreeBlackMan said...

*Looks up, sees purple pump wrapped in black fist emblem flashing up in the sky. Pulls out all black gear* Let's ride out.
1) Using the word aficionado
2) Know Lalah not Donny?
3) Trying to get other ninjas to cosign your ignance
*adds nunchucks to side pocket*

Jason P said...

Stevie, Donny, Aretha, Sam, Marvin, Quincy, Ella, Sassy, Ray, Nat, Duke - KNOW YOUR BASICS.
Right now Donny rolling over in his grave singing this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHPNUN-U8E

Deb B said...

The waiter knew.

SingLikeSassy said...

When Herbie Hancock asked Christina Aguilera to redo "A Song For You" she didn't know who Donny was either. Sigh.

Who is this boy's mama cause she set him up.

BlackButterfly said...

*Grabs stomach while laughing hysterically*

Wooh! Your date was like me having a conversation with my teenage daughter on some of today's music. I've always found it difficult to date men my age or older that seem too immersed/familiar with things I consider to be for the 20 year old set. If it's a part of your business it's understandable but otherwise it's a fail!

"Grown folks know grown folks music." I agree.

SassyJJ said...

I can't even. I'm offended. In my mind's eye, I am Lalah's long lost twin sister because we look sooo much alike! :) So homeboy is just WRONG.

Paul on Ice said...

Okay!
I'm 27 but I was talking with a 23 y/o and said Reuben Studdard doesn't sound that much like Luther to me. She said, "Luther Who?"
Cut pile.
I feel you, Chele.

SassyJJ said...

She's fab!

blackprofessor said...

This has to be the funniest story you have ever told! Dude only dates young chics who are generally impressed by his Drake love.

On to the next!

Lo said...

He's 42 and had no idea who Donny Hathaway is? What ELSE doesn't he know????? I meeeeean.... If he's that bass-ackwards on this one thing, how many other things will there be?

Girl. If you think you can avoid goin' down a dark road while continually trying to enlighten the ig'nant, I say go for it. Otherwise, save yourself (and him). I myself would wind up saying something; and he'd wind up feelin' mighty small.

Trudy said...

Get out now. No need to stick around. I am surprised you didn't start shivering right then and there. The sad part is I know 20 somethings who know older music so what is this guy's excuse? Scary stuff indeed. LOL. I bet he has Bieber playing in his car right now. Maybe Selina Gomez or Nicki Minaj too then, yes? LOL.

I love your posts. I forget that people like this guy exist.

David Chase said...

But... but - Couldn't he have played it off and then Googled it? It's one thing to be stupid, it's another to advertise it.

Troy said...

Run and don't look book. Little lie... big lie.
He's NOT an "aficionado" what else isn't he?

OneChele said...

Here's the downloadable MP3 http://www.amazon.com/Its-What-I-Do/dp/B003766SQO?ie=UTF8&tag=blanbou-20&link_code=btl&camp=213689&creative=392969

Or just a listen: http://soundcloud.com/onechele/its-what-i-do-kirk-whalum-f

OneChele said...

Definitely. Particular when he played the Drake card.

OneChele said...

Hide ya wives & ya husbands, he was a divorce attorney.

OneChele said...

I didn't ask.

OneChele said...

First, you're welcome.
Second, that's all I'm sayin'!

J B said...

Plus, who were his friends? Don't friends usually listen to the same music?

J B said...

http://www.priceisrightfail.com/

bkbisous said...

At least Christina's got the, "I'm Latina raised by a Spanish teacher of European descent" thing going for her. I like her voice, but she stumbled on the soul.

OneChele said...

You have hit on another of my pet peeves. Don't come at me all Black Academia and can't tell the difference between DuBois and Douglass. No.

OneChele said...

The waiter had the raised brows, the pursed lips, the whole nine. Too funny.

OneChele said...

You know the rule - Don't talk about it, be about it...

OneChele said...

I swear I'm going to invent a portable EJECT button and make a million!

OneChele said...

And I so agree with you. Even Drake would be surprised to hear himself called "cutting edge"

GrownAzzMan said...

*checks for coded text that indicating time to report to undisclosed drop location*

BB Waite said...

*speaking from the grown folks corner* I had to go look up Drake. Him, the Songz boy and the one who swung on Rihanna are all mingled in my head.

GrownAzzMan said...

"But... but - Couldn't he have played it off and then Googled it?"

Could have but when you are an 'afficinado' you wanna act like you know...SMH

OneChele said...

A purple pump wrapped in a black fist? LOL! Is that the Bougie Distress Call Sign? Sounds like a t-shirt waiting to happen ;-)

OneChele said...

Yesss, we call those Pegroes.

OneChele said...

Wait, wait, wait - she didn't know who Luther was?!
*hyperventilates*

OneChele said...

No, thank goodness. But that still gives him no excuse.

OneChele said...

Le Deep Sigh. You can't call yourself a soul singer and not know where soul really comes from.

OneChele said...

I was personally offended. I mean like he talked bad about my mama offended.

Jamie Wesley said...

Dude stumbled on one of my pet peeves. I hate when I ask people what type of music they listen to and they say everything, but when I ask for more detail, they name five R&B (or country or whatever )artists. Umm, that's not everything. That's one genre. It's okay if you don't listen to everything. Most people don't, so please stop trying to impress me with a lie. A stupid lie at that.

At first, I was going to tell you to cut dude some slack UNTIL I read that he called himself an aficionado. At that point, all bets were off. He set himself up to fail.

As for the Drake love, please tell me you reminded him that he's old enough to be Aubrey Graham's father. Jimmy Brooks forever!

And now that I've amused myself, I'm going to leave now.

OneChele said...

What ELSE doesn't he know????? Exactly.

William Martin said...

Chele - you know we want a win for you but these bruhs keep coming up with new and inventive reasons to be cut.
I don't gibbadam what he calls himself. Every black person over the age of 25 should know who Donny Hathaway is.

William Martin said...

*reaches in back of closet for camouflage fit* We got a list of folks to snatch right? I mean as long as we riding out...

Shondriette said...

Bwahahaha!!! This is a PERFECT example of why I told you that you need your own reality show. Damn if you don't have some comical dating moments! Better luck next time and I'll be happily waiting for a successful entry in the bougie dating chronicles. *hugs*

Rob said...

I blame his Daddy too.

Rob said...

This is why we need to pull playa card ALONG with black card.

OneChele said...

LOL! Yes - that one!

OneChele said...

Don't even worry about it.

Penny said...

I see you. I know who Drake is (young relatives) but I can't name a single song by him.

MariSol said...

I'm Latina raised by Spanish/Euros and I KNOW Donny.
"Someday we'll all be free" still brings a tear to my eye.

MariSol said...

This song is the damn truth. Where do you FIND this stuff. It's like a whole relationship in a song.

CaliGirlED said...

Riley, Dr. Martin, GAM and Free...*DEAD*! And for the rest of the bruhs in BougieLand that have not yet read this comment and geared up....*dead again*! LOL

CaliGirlED said...

Please tell me she was an exchange student from a country having where radios, records and CDs was punishable by death!

CaliGirlED said...

"It's one thing to be stupid, it's another to advertise it." This.right.here.

bkbisous said...

Forgive me, MariSol. You were fortunate in your upbringing. :D

CaliGirlED said...

I feel you on that one. I know who Drake is and that he was a writer before coming out himself (I think that's a typical story), however I can't tell you one thing he sings/raps/writes. But I like that Sprite commercial he did. LOL

DB said...

I do not believe that, considering she did "This Christmas" for her Christmas album, which predated the Hancock album by five years.

MariSol said...

My mom's side of the family is black so I really was! Best of both worlds...

Leopard_Print_Pumps said...

I think any black person who claims to like music. Period.

GrownAzzMan said...

If you are a grown man and you think Drake is well, anything, then I don't know what to say about what you are doing with your life...

JohnKinPDX said...

Or since we're being pretentious - Pegreaux

JohnKinPDX said...

I have a few to put on the list.

MichelleG said...

Thank you!

JohnKinPDX said...

That note she holds at the end is just sick.

JohnKinPDX said...

Yes!

SassyJJ said...

Ol' girl was probably made off of some Luther. smh

SassyJJ said...

He was also on Degrassi. I only know that because I have younger brothers and sisters. *shifty look*

Steve said...

See - and I caught hell for cutting a chick (30 y/o) for saying Usher was a legend and she didn't think Michael Jackson was that "big of a deal" - as you say - life is too short for that level of shiggity. Naw. Hell naw.

Steve said...

That brings a little tear to my eye.

aishao1122 said...

finally understood all those tweets LOL I am done. He needs to turn in his Black card and go sit somewhere
heck even my little sister knows Donnie Hathaway.
Im Done too funny

CaliGirlED said...

LOL

CaliGirlED said...

LOL

Jasmin said...

Age has nothing to do with it--Even if this guy hangs around younger cousins, nieces, whatever, he should still know who Donny Hathaway is. My mom is a little older than the average Bougieland visitor (she turned 50 in October), and she raised her girls on V103 (shoutout to Chi-town!) and a bunch of old school cassettes (yes, I remember what a tape player was). I remember kids would try to front and act like it wasn't cool, but then they'd be singing "A House is not a Home" on the bus ride home.

I understand that kids and teens today have iPods and Limewire and all of that stuff, but those of us born in the 80s didn't have all those options, so a lot of our musical choices were dictated by our parents. If he's that out of the loop, I don't even think he's hanging with 20-somethings--he must kick it with 16-year-olds!

CaliGirlED said...

Anyway... in the midst of discussing my Lalah-love, I said "she has very distinctive phrasing, like her father." To which Paul said, "Oh did her father sing too?"....He should have said, "That's Donny Hathaway's daughter?!! Man how did that slip by me!" Or something like that. Instead, like David C. said, he advertised his stupidity. I mean a Superbowl commercial kind of advertising!

Jade Star said...

He said DRAKE! ARGH!

That ninja was LYING about his musical tastes. He has none!

This reminds me of my best friend. His cousin called him to ask if he could use his computer to type up a paper for music history class. Topic? Music Greats. The person for his paper? Gucci Mane. My friend said he hung the phone up and refused to answer when he was calling back.

Leon X said...

He also might want to Google "aficionado" while he's at it.

J B said...

After you become famous, they'll commission someone to create this scuplture in your honor: a fist coming out of the ground, manicured, clutching purple two-toned spectators.

(it could happen!)

Leon X said...

As a music nerd I'm insulted. Donny Hathaway has the best voice in R&B ever. The man was not only a great singer, but a musician who spent his career getting better at his craft. A (black) person who doesn't know Lalah and Donny Hathaway are related is cool. Not knowing who Donny Hathaway is inexcusable.

I'm going to listen to "Flying Easy" and calm down.

"From the black pool of genius..."

MichelleG said...

Tossing Holy Water to cleanse this blasphemy.

Reciting Drake?
Luther who?
Usher a "legend"?
Questioning Michael Jackson's greatness?

My childhood was FULL of all kinds of music so a man that calls himself an aficionado better bring his "A" game or prepare to be embarrassed (like your scrabble debacle earlier).

Having this conversation during Black History Month just shows that the need for the focus on OUR history seems to be greater now more than ever. Your dates parents need to be hunted down and fined (bougie people can't advocate violence but a slap isn't enough. I will however donate to the secret bail fund for the drop squad members). It's one thing for someone that is younger to not be aware that certain songs are remakes but hours after reading this post I am still shaking my head that a man my age didn't know who Donny Hathaway was.

InstantFail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Ever.

OneChele said...

*Lights sage-chamomile candles.*
Deep cleansing breaths.
Amen sister.

Natasha Hunter said...

Your whole first paragraph summed up so many of my dating woes. Preach on, pass the collection plate and preach on.

SingLikeSassy said...

I didn't make this up I read it somewhere several years ago either in an interview with her or Herbie. It sticks with me because I couldn't believe it at the time. Let me see if I can find it.

Jasmin said...

Having this conversation during Black History Month just shows that the need for the focus on OUR history seems to be greater now more than ever.

You said it. I work at a middle school and some (Black) people unfortunately looked at me sideways for suggesting we highlight someone other than Michael Jordan and Oprah Winfrey this year. Can Black scholars get some recognition?

Angela said...

I'm surprised the three gentlemen at the other table didn't discreetly invite you to join them.

kjnetic aka Peter Parker said...

well i can safely say i'm not grown yet...heh

*heads over to wikipedia*

CorettaJG said...

YES WE CAN is right! Tell the truth and shame the devil - this is too outrageous.

baileyqc said...

"Get rid of the zero and get with a hero" - HA!

CorettaJG said...

Good Lord, has it already come to this? He only just passed away in like 2005.

Brown Babe said...

Any PERSON, of any race/creed/culture who claims to like music...much less a self proclaimed aficionado!

Brown Babe said...

I would love to forget that people like this exist...but I'm reminded every. single. day!

CaliGirlED said...

One of my brokers is always asking me how to spell things, to which I usually come through. Well he just asked me how to spell "connoisseur", I couldn't right off hand but told him I would get right back to him. He said, "Ok, I'll just aficionado for now". I laughed so hard, he probably thought I was crazy! LMAO!!!

CorettaJG said...

LOL!

Bethany Showell said...

How has he at least not heard "This Christmas"? I don't care what age you are - not knowing Donny Hathaway you do not get a pass. At all. Not even a lil' bit. And my warning signal would start going off at "subsets". When they start adding in extra words that means my roommate's 8 year old mini-human knows more than they do.

CorettaJG said...

Blasphemy is right! I'll donate my services to the drop squad members' legal defense fund.

michaeldavis said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjVBCVjKUjk

MidWestDominicana said...

Ain't it, though!! Cept for the double portion of hips and thighs equalling quadruple time in the gym. *fail whale*

Missthg said...

Lawd have mercy!!! How does one not know who Donny Hathaway is. Imma need him to hand in his black card.

rozb said...

I discreetly asked every person at my job if they knew who Donny Hathaway was. All colors, ethnic and social groups...errythang! Guess what? They all knew who he was, or at least heard his Christmas song. Even the young Filipino graphic artist knew! I bet my puppy knows more about music than he does!

I volunteer to be a member of the Bougie Drop Squad after this! *Looking for my cape and purple super hero boots*

CaliGirlED said...

"Tossing Holy Water to cleanse this blasphemy."
"Having this conversation during Black History Month just shows that the need for the focus on OUR history seems to be greater now more than ever."
AGREED!!!

What about folks other than his parents? I know a lot of Blues songs because of my aunts! Was there no one around him listening to real music when he was growing up?!!

Man's World said...

No Donny No Date?

AppleBerryMIA said...

I just did the same thing. Even the dude on the help desk who just moved here from Mumbai knows Donny! Okay?!

CaliGirlED said...

I thought about doing the same thing.

"I volunteer to be a member of the Bougie Drop Squad after this! *Looking for my cape and purple super hero boots*"...You are a NUT! LOL

JojoRaze said...

wha??? Proof that a tertiary degree does not increase your sophistication.

Foxy Brown said...

if my 28 year old self know who Donny is AND can quote his lyrics on command AND not know which one Drake is AND i'm wondering if he has even had three hits, this 42 year old...you know what...nevermind. (oh and please forgive my very bad grammar.)

JojoRaze said...

As far as I'm concerned, these are the ten black people in American black history black people need to know to know their history well: Crispus Attucks, Phyllis Wheatley, Sally Hemmings, Nat Turner, Frederick Douglas, WEB Dubois, Booker T Washington, Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. But that's just me since I'm a grad student of history. But, not knowing who the final six people on the list is criminal imho since they encompass so much of black political thought for the past 150 years. People just need to up their knowledge game in errythang, period!

soldier said...

I really like Nicki Minaj
*I know, don't tell me. I'm banished from BnB. Sigh.. I'll get my coat*

GammasWorld said...

If he just hadn't called himself an "aficionado", I might could have given him a pass and enjoyed sharing some good music with him. But noooo, he had to get all siddity and try to use genres and subsets and what not without having a damn clue about the subject. And then, THEN, he got tart and tried to get someone to cosign his ignorance?? NO. Now I'm closer to 50 than 42 (just how close never you mind) so my patience level is virtually zero when it comes to some things. Not being able to admit "I don't know" is one of those things. Just say you're not familiar and we can keep it moving.

JojoRaze said...

Instead, like David C. said, he advertised his stupidity. I mean a Superbowl commercial kind of advertising!

*dead* at "Superbowl commercial kind of advertising!" In the words or Abe Lincoln: Better to be silent and considered a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt. He should have just sat there and bobbed his head, closed his eyes and enjoy the music like he knew what Chele was talking about.

JojoRaze said...

I always used to watch tv when Degrassi was on and I knew he was the black guy in it. So, when I first saw a clip somewhere of him rapping, the first thing out of my mouth was "Why is the boy on Degrassi rapping?"

OneChele said...

Yes indeed. You may go sit in a timeout and reflect. Hard. On your life choices.

OneChele said...

I rebuke thee. I verily do.

JojoRaze said...

Folk need to have the dictionary.com toolbar on their browser to prevent this level of fail. As Fezik said in Princess Bride: I think that word means what you think it means!

OneChele said...

I don't want fame, just the fortune. Please and thank you. That statue sounds like the hotness though.

OneChele said...

I'm just now reading this. Le Boo!

OneChele said...

A little Thunderbird by the dumpster behind 7-11.

Alvin Milton said...

I say dude was just trying to impress but got caught with his pants on the ground.
Furthermore, 42 years old + latest teen sensation musical taste = Where they do that at?

michaeldavis said...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109675/

ASmith said...

Well I'm just all shades of done right now.

All shades.

Leo the Yardie Chick said...

I'm closer to 30 myself, and I can't stand/keep up with the manufactured artistes of today. If vocalization software should crash tomorrow, 99% of them would be done.

Leo the Yardie Chick said...

Never thought I'd see 'Gucci Mane' and 'music greats' in the same paragraph WITHOUT a 'not' in sight.

Leo the Yardie Chick said...

Ok, I suck at names BUT I recognize 'This Christmas'. How many Bougie points did I lose? *sheepish*

Just Ang said...

JESUS, hold my mule while my SOUL is anchored in the LORD!

I formally request that this man be dropped off on a remote island. Now please excuse me while I go play "Giving Up" to sooth my soul.

Brittany Geneva said...

Don't write dude off for this!! He may be a little silly but it's not as bad as the sports guy a while back

Just Ang said...

THANK YOU! I had to drop a fool for saying (several times) that Stevie Wonder was horrible and he refused to even listen to it.

Nah babe, you gotta go.

maureen palmer said...

This would have left me a a tad bit sad, Donny Hathway and Sam Cooke are some of favorites.

Sweet N Tart said...

Why is a 42 year old man that into Drake?

CaliGirlED said...

Right!!! LOL

CaliGirlED said...

Yes it is. Remember he called himself a "music aficionado"!

happinessisme said...

Hmmm, I think you should give him another shot. Musical taste isn't everything. Though, not knowing who Dinnie Hathaway was(especially at his age) and then reciting Drake lyrics is cause to pause. Still, it might just be one of those things. Example: I know NOTHING about sports. I'm from Cleveland and can't understand why everyone was so pissed at Lebron. Should that be a deal breaker? Try another date(if you want) where you can get to know him better.-

BrendaKay said...

My guess is ~ said 42 year old man has dated more than a couple of women in the early-to-mid 20's range, and Drake is certainly their genre of music.

BrendaKay said...

I decided to ask my 16 year old nephew this evening, who is the better musical artist ~ Donny Hathaway or Drake. My nephew looked at me as if I had lost my mind, started laughing, and said, "Donny Hathaway of course, Drake is nothing but auto-tune." Then as my nephew turned to walk away, he asked me in a very serious tone of voice if I had hit my head when I slipped on the ice in the driveway last Friday morning. :-)

Only the Tall said...

Epic Fail right, epic fail. There is no excuse! Where do you find these people? I'm all the way in Korea and people love Donny Hathaway here. Run for the hills.

OneChele said...

There it is. I rest my case. The 16 y/o knows better!

J B said...

I crack up every time I read Eriq LaSalle. Mostly because I just saw "Coming to America" again for the 654th time.

Joyjoydc said...

I keep trying to explain that there is an ALTERNATE why reason some of us 35+ (speaking for myself) woman are single. Some of the fish in this dating pool you just have to throw back.

Natasha Hunter said...

***Doing the wop at my desk early in the morning***

JojoRaze said...

Liking you for providing an alternative view; but I'm still of the view that something ain't right about a 42-yr old black man thinking Drake is "the bestest ever"

kjnetic aka Peter Parker said...

well, if you're gonna call yourself a music aficianado...you're gonna have to know old school. Donny Hathaway, Smokey, Temptations, etc.

i don't know much Donny Hathaway music...then again, i don't call myself a music aficianado, lol

CaliGirlED said...

With a quickness!!!

Nadette said...

I know I'm late, but I just had to say Chele, I'm on your side, and I myself am not that familiar with Donny Hathaway's music. In my defense, I'm 26, and my mother had a thing for talk radio, but even so, I still KNOW who Donny Hathaway was. I mean, c'mon, son. He's a self professed afficiando of music, is over 40, and has never heard of the man? What the flub? And he's over 40 and can quote Drake? Grown and responsible FAIL! I have three words for you girl, lose. his. number.

Oh, and I just downloaded some Donny, and of course, I'm in love :)

keishabrown said...

awaits for t-shirt creation to order mine in L fitted. please and thanks.
LMAO

keishabrown said...

bwahahahaa. this.

keishabrown said...

im from toronto (and dont live far from his residence), so i know all about drizzy by sheer default.
but i would never and THE ROCK MEAN NEVER hail him as the best of anything. he's hot, no doubt about it...but... yeah..

TheMochaPeach said...

Did we go on the same date with the same dude? I SwEAR!!!!

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