Well, after a series of discussions over the past few days - the mostly anticlimactic inevitable thing has come to pass: New Dude is no more. Well, he still exists on the planet... just separately from me.
It took three days, six discussions, twelve emails and forty-two text messages. We ran the entire gamut from flinging accusations, assessing blame, owning up to failures, grudging acceptance and finally... an amicable agreement.
His flaw was being conflicted about what he really wants and what direction he wants to go. My flaw was coloring the present with issues from the past. He drew his line in the sand and I drew mine. When you reach the kind of impasse where neither person is willing to back down or even understand the other person's point view - that's a stalemate and you have to just call it a game.
He did mention (quasi-accusingly) that I had checked out four weeks ago. I couldn't disagree. You don't call time-out without knowing that play may not resume. I was pretty positive when I issued my non-ultimatum that this is how it would turn out.
Lessons learned? Hmmm... I'm not sure yet. I think when you have a feeling that something ain't right, you have to go with it. So maybe I should have bounced sooner? Nah, if I had to do this one all over again - I'd do it all the same. I enjoyed everything but the drama and the outside influences. I really enjoyed the mature interaction and conversation, I loved not having to guess what was going on. I will definitely look for that openness and ease of communication in my next "real" relationship.
So for the first time in my "grown-up" relationships, I can walk away without a whole lot of what-ifs and coulda/woulda/shouldas. There's a very real possibilty that Derrick and I will remain actual friends. His mother has already booked a coffee date for this week. And I'm not ruling out future possibility that Derrick and I will take another shot at it. Who knows?
I've been told by multiple sources that I'm not allowed to take another lengthy man-hiatus but Lord knows I don't feel like playing the dating game all over again. Le Huge Damn Sigh. I will miss the excellent hot chocolate. Yes, hot chocolate is a euphemism for that which I do not discuss on this blog.
Onto the next. I've no doubt BougieLand has commentary, opinions, advice and recommendations for next steps... the floor is yours.


114 comments:
I just wanted to thank you for sharing your experience with New Dude here. I admire how you handled yourself from beginning to end: with honesty and integrity.
I knew from our conversations that this was coming, but it still makes me sad. I feel like
a kid that just found out there's no such thing as Santa Claus or that the Grinch really did steal Christmas. :::::lonely Native American pollution PSA tear rolling down my cheek::::
Nothing but hugs, chica. :-)
Sis, do you want to get married?
Sorry to hear this. I was rooting for y'all!
I'm a long time reader but have never posted before.. But I had to.. It's sad when outside influences mess up a good thing.. I liked the little you told us about your relationship, it was real in a world where so many people put on an act.. That in itself is hard to find...
Wishing you the best and still hoping you'll find your way to each other more willing to compromise...
I'm sad that it ended, but glad that you are in an ok place. Ehugs and best wishes.
le damn, and le sigh just for a few i wish to say men suck, at least you walk away with some good memories
I'm really sad you and New Dude are no more. But you know what's best for you. I do hope you guys are able to move past the drama of outside influences, like KenyanGal said, but everything happens for a reason. Now you can focus on being cute and fly and have old men in leisure suits send you drinks!!! :)
::in Florida Evans' voice:: DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!
I am glad you brought yourself above the fray, but still, wouldn't a well-placed chop to the throat of SEW and a pointy-toed shoe kick to Vince's trifling hindparts feel a little good? Just a little?
I will make a purple people eater just for you: Welch's grape juice and a touch of tequila and lime juice in a martini glass and toss one up for you later today.
Dammit Derrick - you had promise AND appeal. Like Cee Lo said in his new video: "WHYYYYYYYY!"
Sorry to hear about this. I had high hopes for New Dude. Let's hope there's a New New Dude on the horizon. One thing though, I would caution you against what I call boomerang relationships. Whatever caused the demise of a previous relationship is likely still present the next time around with the same person especially the older the people involved get. Save everyone involved the time and drama and skip the whole damn thing.
From your pre-Florida post, I figured this was where you were headed. I'm glad you feel OK about it. Wishing you the best.
He'll be back and he'll come completely correct next time. You heard it here first...
It's not fun when any relationship ends so I dig where you are coming from. I do agree about playing the dating game all over again. I'm ambivalent about it myself. The more you think you want to be in it the less interested you get.
::said in my Florida Evans' voice:: DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!
Sorry to hear that I liked the two of you together. But I understand that you had to do what was in your heart. (p.s. I truly feel you on the "hot chocolate" refernce, maybe the next one will have whip cream! LOL!)
:( awww, sorry babe.....so right in every way except that glaringly not good for anyone wide forgiveness of shiggity. I wish it had worked out but some things just aren't meant to be.
Instead of the man hiatus, maybe you take a few months "hot chocolate" only. Or "vanilla latte" - whatever works...
It's sad to hear, but maybe it's for the best. Especially with Boris and Natasha always waiting in the wings. Who really needs all that interference in a relationship?
I give him 30 days to realize he's made a HUGE mistake and come back around literally begging. By then, you'll be onto the next.
Mos def.
Aw - thank you
All the Whos down in Whoville will be a-ight.
Thanks for delurking.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but I'm not understanding your "flaw". Isn't he the one who brought the past (issues very much intact) back into the present?
I, too, am disappointed that the outcome wasn't what we all hoped it would be.
Truly sorry to hear about the demise of you and New Dude. Although, since New Dude was not willing to let go of his past, it did almost seem inevitable. (I would love to hear New Dude's point-of-view on the situation.)
It IS nice to be able to end a relationship with both parties being cool and adult.
Well...I am sure that you are onto bigger and better.
I've read your blog for a long-time but I had to set up a Disqus account just so I could say:
THIS NINJA IS AN IDIOT!
He had in his hands the possibility for what we're ALL looking for and he let it get away over some bullshit? Sorry - I forgot - shiggity?
If you decide to be less serene and zen about it and want to see him get his ass kicked - hit me up.
AND might I add...
you were too damn good for him anyway.
Side-eye to you ma'am. Now that you've put it out in the cosmos, every gabardine-wearin' Cap Daddy this side of the Mason-Dixon line is liable to roll up.
Pour a little something out for the homies who ain't here...
Well for your first commentary - that's quite something. Welcome out of Lurkerville.
sdmf!! (c) D'Angelo
Amen!!!!!!!!
*in best squeaky grade-school "Rocky and Bullwinkle" fan voice: NO! Boris and Natasha have waaaay more class and common sense!!!
I'm reading to cut a mother for losing one of my research books in the mail, so thanks for that. I needed a laugh. :D
To him I deuces.
To you I ask - who ya got on deck? I KNOW you got the bullpen lined up. Who got next?
You did what you had to do. I applaud that rather than waiting around to see if maybe this time it would be different. When's he's ready to be different, he'll come find you.
Truthfully, if I hadn't been in a situation before where I wasn't clear on where I stood - this wouldn't have bothered me as much and I'd probably have given him to time to sort it out. But based on my history, no tolerance for it.
My money's on two weeks.
It's a lot of work to start over. The energy to reinvest in someone new? I semi-sorta agree with FBM earlier in the comments who said just stick to the hot chocolate for now.
In the words of Mama Payne "Damn, damn, DAMN!!"
I really, really had high hopes for this relationship and like others was waiting on Bougie wedding bells. New Dude Derrick is now officially "That DUMBASS Dude" in my book. He blew it, majorly. And his life is going to suck greatly now that 1) You're gone and 2) He's got his great pals Vince and SEW in his life. He deserves the misery of their company. (WHY would he choose that mess?!!)
Chin up, Chele. I'm sure there's some amazingly awesome guy out there for you in the DFW.
Haha, I just typed the same thing, except I cited Mama Payne from Martin!
I hate it ended but kudos to you! Often we make too many concessions! I don't understand how he could even say you all had to be friends. I am so glad you recognize your worth and let that go. He needs to resolve some serious issues or he will continue this cycle of failing at relationships. Vince doesn't mean him no good and the hooker ex, whatever!
I can't say I am surprised.....
Thanks for putting your life out there so folks like me can see there are other healthy and drama free women having a hard time finding a healthy, sane and drama free male counterpart. Kudos to you for handling this like the classy lady that you are!
You are keeping it class but I don't have to, right? Cause I just want to say Eff Him and Eff Vince and Eff SEW.
Woo-sah, I feel better now.
I will most definitely take it there, Chele, yes I will...
Ah man, damn!
What was meant to be is now what it is. Celebrate what was good, learn from the good and the bad. Love will find you, and you will both be ready. Perhaps this stalemate will wake Derrick up, perhaps not, and this will be his destiny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPzWMxxTvk8 *sing, Luther!!*
LOL #DEAD# at leisure suits..
just don't fall for this :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9x8MenjAmc
LOL - not the Holla Man!
I'll have a purple people eater please and thank you.
I completely feel you on this Chele. Just cut someone a few months ago based on my history and tolerance. (I warned him, but I guess he didn't believe fat meat was greasy!)
I applaud you too, rather than waiting to see if maybe, perhaps, by chance, it's possible, it just might...
Oh, I understand now. I wasn't thinking of your past experiences with previous dudes. That said, I am in perfect sympathy and agreement with your decision. People simply don't realize how important it is to know one's self, taking into account the who I am along with the why I am this way. It is such knowledge that enables you to make the hard decisions when it's necessary to make them.
All the best...
Chele I'm sorry to hear that it had to come to this. And I'm glad to hear that you guys walked away in peace. It's cool that you and Mom are going to sit down for coffee. But be careful! Mama knows that her son just walked away from a great woman and she maybe inclined to try and get you all back together (sooner rather than later).
I know it's hard to walk away from good hot chocolate, but everything that's good to you is not always good for you. *wink*
I'm going through my own version of this with a former s/o now...its always inspring to see someone make the hard choice and not undervalue themselves
Three parts Welch's, two parts tequila, one part lime juice, put in martini shaker with ice (yes, shaken, not stirred). Pour into martini glass, garnish with a slice of lime. Or, if feeling more ghetto than bougie, pour into mason jar with big ice cubes and sip away!
LOL, that's a man for ya...this is why there's a book called "Men Don't Heal, We Ho". :-)
All while wearing matching Gators and Kangols. Kangols worn backwards. Thankfully it isn't summer anymore or you will have to be subjected to the short set and Stacy Adams sandals.
"I warned him, but I guess he didn't believe fat meat was greasy!"
Casket for one, please. I am dead. x_x
I'll call shotgun on the ass-kicking.
LMAO! I wasn't going to take it there but since you mentioned it...
I find it very interested (and entertaining) that it's the fellas saying while I wait for Mr. Right, I should start passing it out with double coupons. Aren't you guys the same ones worried about my "magic number"? How's that gonna work?
not double coupons... :/
Guys aren't worried about magic numbers. At least we shouldn't be, at 30+ we all have a number. A Benz or Bimmer with 50k miles is still wayyyyy better than a Yugo with 5k.
C'mon now. Brothers gonna take a shot. If you're serving hot chocolate, people gonna want a sip. It's like a man law or something. The key is keep it all Brian Mcknight - What we do here... Ha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9gYl_Tkozk
I, um - huh. Well. Wow. Okay then.
Well LeDamn. I don't really know the people involved and my relationship is fine but I still feel like I lost something here. I was really rooting for you two and it wasn't until I saw the title that I knew it wasn't going to be. I am shedding the single tear today a la Denzel in Glory.
"short set and Stacy Adams sandals" **DEAD**
Love the versatility! Hmmm...martini glass or mason jar? How bout one of each! LOL
I have never been concerned about any 'magic number'. We are all grown folks so as long as it still works and can pass the health screening it's all good. Make mine a double with the extra whipped.
You are absolutely right! Unfortunately SOME guys at 30+ are still concerned.
That was a good book!
I loved this song back when Brian was still sexy.
You fellas are doing the most today.
Knowledge is power!
Might as well get a double plot with Roz B.
With marshmallows and sprinkles on top. (We are still rolling with the hot cocoa metaphor, right?)
This is why cougars get the bizness right now. A smart good looking grown ass woman who knows what she's doing as opposed to a shiny young thing acting the fool? Just sayin' - gimme the luxury car with some miles on it.
My Sister and I were talking about being the un-us ...because we figured we were dating the same type of men expecting different results. We both agree to clear the slate - and date those men we fear instead. (you know the one's we know are right for us but we've been to afraid to have it...
This made me sad because I loved reading about ya'll (except for the ex-wife drama). However, you made a reasoned decision and I'm sure it was for the best. I'm glad that it ended peaceably and I hope that you can remain friends. In the meantime, keep your heart and mind open to new possibilities. Good luck in love!
Le Boo Hoo..Le BIG DAMN Sigh...Le Pout.......
I'm SO not OKAY with this, respect your decision and REALLY want to hear from ex-"New Dude" .....It will take me some time to articulate why I am stuck on "YOU and New Dude"...and I just got home so I'll be back Le Soon...
Brian is starting to look like a shar-pei in the forehead. Just sayin'...
I know! I used to have all sorts of hot chocolately double whip mocha frap plans for him but er uh... Somewhere he lost the sexy. I don't know where it went, but it's gone.
Chele...damn. I'm le blue for you. But you made the right decision, and I'm glad you can walk away with no regrets. It's not often we can part from a s/o and say I would do it again.
i'm gutted.
i feared this would be the outcome, and although it's best for you, i would cheerfully strangle derrick right now for allowing those lunatics to have ANY bearing on your relationship. i really hope he sees the light and comes begging for ilove back' as we say in isiZulu....and i HATE the thought of that horrible woman, his deranged ex, and that imbecile of a friend getting their way with him....HATE IT!!!!!!
so true....that's what i admire so much about her...integrity counts for a lot. you handled yourself with dignity, girl.
that sounds fab!
Just adjust the lime juice to control tartness. A friend of mine added sugar to the rim of the glass - gettin' all fancy and stuff. It tasted good that way too, almost like a grape Jolly Rancher...
Geez! I imagined this ending up as a successful love story (sans the crazy azz ex and friend). Taking time to re-evaluate never hurt anybody and you know where your heart is.
*lighting a candle for rekindled love*
*cough* gasp. wheezing. flatlines________________________
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! Even though I do not know you or Derrick I am still hoping you two come to your senses and make a go out of it again... only next time ending in marriage, three kids and a beach house in Hilton Head. I just do not get what New Dude no more is thinking. He would rather have crazy ex and shifty friend in his life instead of you as his permanent boo?!?!!!!??
I think it was when he went all bitter with the divorce. Shoulda tried healing instead of hoeing. It did terrible things to his face.
Sad cuz he was all kinds of sexy back in the day
(whispers) IKR! Sad as it is to hear, between you & me, I was wondering if she still has Officer Friendly's number
What?! Too soon?
Something told me this was over when I read the 'can't we all just get along' conversation
Seriously, OneChele, not to be trite but remember if not this, than something better.
P.S. Do you still have Officer McCutie's number? lol Maybe it time to "catch up" :)
I'm all depressed which is hilarious because I follow you on Twitter and Facebook and you're just as damn peppy and cute as ever. Oh - thanks for posting pic of you on FB, you are TOO cute!!
I still have a good thought for Dude Formerly Known as New. Here's hoping you make it work one day.
Rozb is going down for a double homicide cause I died right behind The_A!
Yes sir.
I was with you til you started putting in your special order! LOL
Oprah says "difficulty arises when we ignore whispers". I say this to say, I know u made the right decision for u. Since I bumped onto bougie on twitter and have been reading your site, you are an intellegent woman with great insight,I know you have arrived to this conclusion with great conviction. Matters of the heart are complicated, and as you get older you realize that there is more gray area than there is black and white. For me I always say when one goes through something like this, it's like being flipped upside down and my only hope is one lands on their feet rooted on the ground. Wishing u peace, love and happiness.
Let's cue Kem, I love this song and the lyrics are on time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLXQ369BOqc
& that is self-awareness that most people struggle with everyday. Much respect to you. Sad as we are to see this end, you sanity is paramount.
You are doing the most "as long as it still works and can pass heath screening".
I see I wasn't the only one who called them "Boris and Natasha"..
I know, right?! I wanted to be all mad and sad but Chele's being so classy.
OneChele... put on your PRETTY WINGS!
Time will bring a well end of your trial
One day there'll be no remnants no trace
No residual feelings for New Dude
One day you won't remember Derrick.
however, you face will be the reason he will smile
But Derrick will not see what he cannot have forever.
He will always love you and he hopes you feel the same.
Eventhough you had to fill out the prescription for the remedy
He had to set you free to fly your pretty wings.
Pretty wings, your pretty wings, your
Pretty wings. Pretty wings around.
LYRICS edit from the Pretty Wings song BY MAXWELL FROM THE BAD HABITS CD
Luv you girl...remember no emotional eating, shopping or interim HOT CHOCALATE. :)
I kid, I kid...but maybe I should do a little ditty to reverse any bad karma that may come because of my joke, because Lawd knows I don't want to be responsible for some Cap Daddy coming your way...
I won't say, "sorry it didn't work out", because this may be best in the long run. I think Derrick lost out on a great relationship, but life is too short to have a person in your life who is not willing to make your needs and desires the number one priority. He sounded like a good guy, but he was not ready for you, and it was best to let it go while you still could be friends. Believe me, he is going to be kicking himself for letting you get away. I guess SEW and the best friend are happy......
*drops to knees in dramatic fashion, raises arms to the sky and yells NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
well. now that thats outta my system.
kudos for acting and being a grown up
thanks for sharing your experiences
Aww! Sorry about the 'breakup'...... ; [
This. RIght. Here.
I agree. While I partially understand the struggle with what to do about Vince, the SEW issue is ridiculous. There is not even a question about the necessity of that being nipped rather than "let's all be friends." But, when he is ready, he knows how to contact you.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x107/supremelurker/damnre7.gif
::in Florida Evans' voice:: DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!
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