Thursday, February 11, 2010

Why Calling Bullshiggitty on John Mayer hurt my feelings… and other realizations

Tuesday there was a whole lot of yada-yada on Twitter because John Mayer, an okay singer, gave a completely a$$holey interview to Playboy magazine. In it he included the following gems:

MAYER: Someone asked me the other day, "What does it feel like now to have a hood pass?" And by the way, it's sort of a contradiction in terms, because if you really had a hood pass, you could call it a n****r pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a hood pass if you really have a hood pass? But I said, "I can't really have a hood pass. I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been told, 'We're full.'"

PLAYBOY: It is true; a lot of rappers love you. You recorded with Common and Kanye West, played live with Jay-Z.

MAYER: What is being black? It's making the most of your life, not taking a single moment for granted. Taking something that's seen as a struggle and making it work for you, or you'll die inside. Not to say that my struggle is like the collective struggle of black America. But maybe my struggle is similar to one black dude's.

PLAYBOY: Do black women throw themselves at you?

MAYER: I don't think I open myself to it. My d! is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and a f*in' David Duke c**k. I'm going to start dating separately from my d!.

PLAYBOY: Let's put some names out there. Let's get specific.

MAYER: I always thought Holly Robinson Peete was gorgeous. Every white dude loved Hilary from The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. And Kerry Washington. She's superhot, and she's also white-girl crazy. Kerry Washington would break your heart like a white girl. Just all of a sudden she'd be like, "Yeah, I sucked his d!. Whatever." And you'd be like, "What? We weren't talking about that." That's what "Heartbreak Warfare" is all about, when a girl uses jealousy as a tactic.

Okay then. Digest that as you will. Still boggling over "white-girl crazy" and "n* pass". I took offense on a number of levels but that was neither here nor there. Fact is – dude's a jerk and he revealed his inner jerkdom for all to see. Good for him. He doesn't want to sleep with black women (I think someone doth protest too much but okey-dokey: your penis, your preference). Is he a racist, is he psycho? I don't know. I'd bet on crazy, narcissistic and maybe even misogynist. Whatever.

That wasn't what hurt. What cut me to the core was how people aligned themselves on Twitter. Some black women were outraged that he said it and then some black men were outraged by the women's outrage. And then the shiggitty-storm started. "Have of you sistas wouldn't have a shot with him anyway?" "You guys back up anybody with a d!" "If you are going to boycott John Mayer, boycott Li'l Wayne too." "Sisters just mad nobody's checking for them." And these were the nicer of the tweets.

Dammit, people. Why can't we all get along? Time was, some dude said something slapworthy about women, he'd get slapped. And men would line up to help in the slapfest. Time was brothers and sisters… we backed each other's play. Now… not so much. It became a whole "you sisters want everyone to want you" vs. "you brothers ain't worth a damn" debate. And my heart broke a little.

Listen, I don't give 38 shakes of a damn who John Mayer gets to lay up under him (I feel bad for her though). As a matter of fact, I don't care who people get their freak on with if nobody gets hurt. Get love where you find love. But this is a glance at a larger issue that we've been dancing around all week…

What in the heck is it going to take to unite us as a race so we can unite with other races and just live? Barack can't get elected every year. Is it just not humanly possible to unite?

Bougie not bougie. Dark skin/Light-skin. Long hair vs purchased hair. Interracial dating or in-race only. Are we just manufacturing divisions to further separate us now? BougieDad used to say, "Black backs Black when attacked." And God bless him, he did. He had some friends that were side-eye worthy (to say the very least). But he would've have taken a bullet for those guys (and did, figuratively). He felt that if "we" were wrong, that's something we handled behind closed doors. Black-on-black crime was akin to blashphemy in his eyes. "You don't hurt your own." And as Aunt Violet used to say, "We don't air our dirty laundry in front of folks." You may guess who folks refers to. Tuesday's infighting was all manner of stank drawers displayed to the world. I absolutely hated it.

If you haven't seen Wanda Sykes' special "I'ma be Me" on HBO, check it out. There is a section where she discusses race and how her mother never wanted her to do anything remotely "off" in public because "white people are watching you." It was hilarious… because BougieParents said the exact same thing. My parents had two sayings for me when I left the house, "Act like a lady" and "Don't embarrass us in front of those white folks." In my youth I didn't understand why it was worse for me to embarrass them in front of black folks than white folks. Now I know the black folks would have (and did) get me told if I even thought about cutting a fool in public.

A BougieTale to illustrate my point:

My first job out of college was for (then-GTE) Verizon at their corporate headquarters in Irving. I was a temporary administrative assistant in the IT department. There was me, one other black guy and a whole bunch of white folks. The dress was business casual but I went in pressed, dressed and ready to impress every day after one of the other admins told me I was the first black person she'd really spent any time around. She was from Kingsville, Texas and her daddy was "still in the Klan but she didn't think like that." Uh-huh. Anyway, sitting in a meeting one day my manager turned to me and asked me how my vacation was.

I said it was great.

He asked where I went, I said Lake Tahoe.

Another guy said, "Oh, do black people ski?" :-/

I replied, "Yes, quite a bit. One of my friends made a black diamond run."

Another guy says, "Oh, the black trail – do they hand out malt liquor and fried chicken on the lift?" Half the room laughed, including the black guy who tacked on, "Afro Sheen for everybody!" I was not amused.

I glared, picked up my pen and said, "Maybe we should get on with the meeting."

Afterwards, the black dude tried to get all loud in the breakroom, "I don't know why she had to get all sensitive. It was obvious it was a joke! Some black people, wow!"

I stepped in, "Can I speak to you for a second?"

He said, "We can talk right here."

"No. We. Can. Not." <--polite version of "Bring yo' ass!"

I went all the way downstairs and into a private conference room before I went off, "You want to sit up in here Uncle Tom-ming for a paycheck that's on you. But don't do that in front of me… ever."

He said, "Look, you're young. You don't get how things work. You're going to have to eat some shit every now and then."

"I get that. I will eat shit if I absolutely have to but I won't participate in the shoveling or the throwing."

"You'll learn. You make waves. You get canned. Go along to get along."

Evilly I said, "You gonna tap dance and shine shoes too?" He slammed out.

Later my manager came to me and apologized. The next time the Human Resources girl (a sister) was in town she came to talk to me about "the incident." We spoke and long story short, I ended up working in her department.

I distinctly remember the angry, embarrassed, helpless feeling that came over me as I sat in that meeting. I flushed red, then blanched white, then flushed red again. I clenched my fist and my teeth and had to make a conscious decision not to scream or cry. I felt EXACTLY that same way reading Twitter yesterday. Over fifteen years later, look how far we STILL have to go. I know this little blog post solves absolutely nothing but to share my stories and frustrations. But I had to share. Now it's your turn. Thoughts? Comments? Sick of it all?

36 comments:

the world famous citizen ojo said...

Yes, I have noticed this thing of late where black men and black women argue about who has it the worst. I had a conversation on twitter with a female follower involving the hash tag #unwifeable and #unhusbandable. Apparently it's okay for women to start a trend (in joking of course) that if you do such and such you are unhusbandable but when men do it (in joking of course) it's sexist. For every rapper I can blame for lyrics degrading women, there is a SuperHead that is around the corner. We are all to blame. I just don't get why we can't accept our criticism and pledge to do better. I'm not suprised at the dust up over John Mayer - we can't even agree on who is to blame for NippleGate at the SuperBowl - Justin or Janet.

maureen palmer said...

For me this issue with JM is niether here nor there . Case in point, I just saw a viral video with LiL Wayne that i thought was misogynistic, but he gets a pass. Forget his lyrics and some of these rappers that are heating the airwaves e/day. Do i think JM is a racist? I don't know, but reading the whole article u can tell he can be d-bag and he is dealing with more issues than what is scratching the surface. Of course i'm not excusing him using the "N" word, but it seems those rappers he mentioned might have heard him use that word and never called him on it. I once heard Jamie Foxx say that if he is close to a white guy and they use the "N" world he will not be offended.
This idea that us black we always have to be on the same side of argument blows mind, i thin as so long as we agree to disagree respectul then we are having productive conversation.
I think there are blacks men who just prefer black women and vice versa, does that make racist? that is open to interpretation
You know as nation we are treading on thin ice when JM is the trending topic the whole day. It is funny b/c senate John Kerry talked about a meeting he attended in Germany and other countries are moving 4ward on many fronts but here in the U.S it is all about tabloid stories and celebrity i.e John Edward scandal is breaking news.
He apologized, and i do hope he is sincere. Please lets talk about education in the black & brown community, child obesity and many other pressing issues. Haiti is still trying to pull themselves out of the rubble. What makes this nation a great nation for the most part is you have choices.

We are living in the age on reality TV i.e "in the love of Ray-J- it shows like these that are so demeaning to black women more than a white man whose is preference is not black women.

derek love said...

Girl, you are old school. Folks don't back each other's play anymore. I agree with you. The Mayer thing was not the problem, people's reaction was. The minute he mentioned a black women and d*** in the same section, someone should have cold cocked his pasty ass. My Mom used to tell me to 'act right in front dem white folks' too. Some of that has been lost along the way.

just passing by said...

SMDH at the idiot you worked with. I am eyeballing a guy like that right here. He brown noses so much his sinuses need an enema.

I will back up a black person's play unless they are so dead wrong it would be ignorant to do so. And even then, I'll stay silent and pull their coat tail in private. That's how it's suppoed to work.

OneChele said...

I know I'm old school... I own it.

Lady Loves Hats said...

I think if we could all get to treating EVERY human being with RESPECT and DIGNITY? That would be a great start.

MochaMuffin said...

There is something to be said about not airing intrarace issues for one and all to see. The fact that people were okay with him dropping the n* word and talking about black women giving head was crazy to me. He'll apologize and keep selling millions of records but some of the damage done from yesterday's flamethrowing? Who will fix that?

Hidi said...

I am not even going to talk about THAT guy because he does not deserve my undivided attention. Bad publicity is still publicity. Moving along, I am sick of it all. Everything. People need to move on with their lives and focus on being their best selves. Life is extremely short for foolishness. In the last two weeks, friends of my family died from lung cancer and pneumonia. With this said, please stop letting people get to you, don't give them that power over you. It is not worth it. (Don't get me wrong it is natural to get upset...just don't stay upset..wink)

As for "black unity", I do not think it exist. A long time ago, we probably did unite but I am not 100% sure. Moreover, Do you notice how we treat each other? i.e. twitter, skin tone, hair, etc. This world is "every man for himself". (man meaning mankind)

OneChele said...

Ooh, good answer!

Mr. A said...

Divide and conquer, it's age old but still present. All of the things you mentioned (skin complexion, economic status, and now gender) are nothing more than divide and conquer. It could be that perhaps with every strong attempt to divide (light skinned slaves work in the big house or well to do blacks are "allowed" out of the ghetto) there was a united front like the one Bougie dad talked about. Despite the attempts, we would find enough people who were willing to get along for the greater good.

However, when it comes to genders, it seems that is a new divide to explore and we're not quite ready to handle it. I agree about my thoughts on Mayer...he's no where near my radar to care enough. But EVERYONE (and now not just the melanin folk) is on the men v. women thing. I think I'm just rambling because I don't know what the fix truly is. I suppose it begins and ends with the family. I'm going to turn it into generation v. generation. A conscious decision has to be made by our generation and the ones after us to re-commit ourselves to our families. It's the best way to build esteem and raise the bar on what's acceptable. That tomato throwing on twitter was ridiculous. Bougie mom and dad wouldn't tolerate it and as a result their lovely daughter won't either.

Ladies and Gentlemen, let's act like ladies and gentlemen, mothers and fathers and then I believe we'll experience progress by leaps and bounds.

I could go on because tangents are my 2nd best friend.

This was a great post Chele, very thought provoking. I would love to hear others thoughts on how to address these divide and conquer issues we have going on.

HauteLikeMe said...

THIS ^^^^ I can't even add, Mr. A came with the simple unvarnished truth. We've been okey-doked into division. Make the decision to end it here. now. today.

RiPPa said...

I don't see anything wrong with having a difference of opinion and having a discussion centered around said difference. I actually believe it is healthy especially when the idea of "collectively moving forward" is the center piece of said discussion. The idea that we should be cognizant as to who's watching and listening (i.e. white folks), shows how much we as individuals have internalized our oppression. And trust me, many of our pathologies stem from that very issue: internalized oppression.

People, this is 2010, and I thought as the young folks would say... we off that slave sh*t. I'm sorry, but because I share the same skin color with another individual doesn't seem like the impetus for my support or backing up as it has been put. Negroes need to stop acting like we're still on a plantation plotting to escape and run to Canada; hence the concern about the white man watching, and or how we're perceived.

As for Captain Coontastic in that meeting? Good move getting at him the way you did. However, if it was me, and I was concerned about how I would be perceived around all those white folks? I would have check his ass right then and there front and center in the most appropriate and witty manner as as Ghetto Intellectual would. But hey, that's just me (lol).

SBChitownChick said...

There's opnionated discussion and then there's the airing of ignorance and hate. I respect someone not wanting to see that aired which in no way has to do with any kind of slave mentality. But as you say, this is just you.

RiPPa said...

So, point out to me what was exactly ignorant and hateful in the discussion
surrounding John Mayer, as presented in this post.

kiki said...

I didn't agree with what was said in the article, I did take offense and I was further offended by the reactions. I think you sent out a tweet that said "Let me own my own irritation" - yup. And can we not respond respectfully? Maybe you and I just think differently

OneChele said...

I don't know what the fix is either. But I know we need one.

Queen of Me said...

I peeked in on twitter, saw the John Mayer onslaught and hopped off. This is one of the issues exposed with Twitter, everyone feels the needs to take sides and then belittle the opposite one. For those of us who like to keep our souls peaceful and our spirits at rest, don't need all the conflict.

LikeLena said...

Girl - you better speak it into existence - unity! A dream of so many generations is still not close to our grasp. At all. But maybe blogs like this are a place to start? Or at least start the conversation?

storm529 said...

What Maureen said. Perfectly put.

Jara said...

The John Mayer debacle hurt my heart. I could only take about 30 mins. of it on Twitter (and I follow reasonable people). After reading the full interview, I didn't even interpret it as him saying that he's anti-black women (I read it as him making the opposite point) and he was REJECTING the interviewer's premise that he has a "nigger pass" because he's still white with white privilege. But *shrug*. See the thing about insecurity and anger is that...it makes you read things into situations/words that aren't there. Blacks have kneejerk reactions when it comes to white people using the word "nigger" or speaking about race in any way that isn't glowing compliments about blacks. A lot of people on Twitter showed me that they need therapy.

As for "not acting up in front of white folks", that elevates white people to a status that they don't deserve to my mind. That part of Wanda's special made me give her a side-eye, especially considering she now has a white wife with white kids - and going out of her way not to get black kids (her explanation for that was extra lame).

But that's another issue...

Funny how these things get blown out of proportion because of people's undercover insecurities ("no one finds black women attractive!" "black women want it all!"). That's what you get when you repress your dirty laundry. I say: air it out, clean it, then fold it nicely in the closet.

A good post about misdirected anger over this John Mayer interview:
http://totherefromhere.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/misdirected-anger-strikes-again/

Jara said...

I can't believe this but...I actually agree with RiPPa on this issue. Time to go take a shower. I feel dirty.

Jara said...

The divide and conquer tactic is age-old because it works. The simplest way to combat it is self-love and embracing the spirit of Umoja (unity). Even in times of disagreement, there must be a remembrance that we all have a common purpose. Unfortunately, we have too many white-worshipping/emulating black people who have embraced the "pull myself up by my bootstraps, forget the rest of ya'll" mentality.

Once we stop trying to be white (embracing their values), then we'll have a chance. Until then, divide and conquer will continue to work.

Mr. A said...

Peace RiPPa! I don't think that there should be solidarity to the point where everyone agrees just because we're black. That would be just plain boring, lol.

I see what you're saying, but I do think the gender wars are getting outta hand. At the end of the day you have both genders telling the other they "ain't sh*t." Nothing good can come from that. I feel like progress is stagnant right now and I feel some of it can be attributed to this great divide. Before we let a gender war get outta hand and have black people slanging insults at ourselves when we already have all these societal messages that our men don't do this and our women aren't worthy of that, anything that supports and advances those messages need to be clipped and burned. If a debate about how wrong Mayer's comments were turn into a what's wrong w/black men and women, maybe, even in 2010, we haven't really gotten too far off that plantation?

As for how you would have handled dude, you know I would pay good money to see that right? Popcorn with extra butter and all, lol!

Jara said...

The "world" isn't like that. America is like that.

Jara said...

I like the old-school bit. And OneChele is a nice throwback to old-school manners. The way that men can speak about women in public now - of any race - is a disgrace. But that's the price that we are paying for our "liberation". :-/

Jara said...

Say that, Queen of Me!

reeciecups said...

I agree with this entirely--the point about Mayer and his N Pass--he was explaining that he doesnt' have one, or a hood pass for that matter. I didn't have too many people acting out about it in my timeline but LOL @ "A lot of people on Twitter showed me that they need therapy."

and the white folks thing--my mom never said that to me coming up. act like you got some home-training yes, but never "in front of these white folks". hmph, I wish I might say that to my future children. act civilized because you are--I don't give a hoot what ethnicity is watching. you are a reflection of me! *I got excited, and I'm not even a parent yet, lol*

Winter137 said...

I didn't know anything about this because I'm not on twitter and am indifferent toward John Mayer. Nontheless, I had a physical reaction to this post and feel sick to my stomach - unbelievable.

The part that really got to me was " "I can't really have a hood pass. I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been told, 'We're full.'" - Who the f*ck does he think he is? The personalized story of black on black corporate crime * gagging*. I'm so disappointed this post is golden . Why are we airing our dirty laundry?and not standing united at a time when it's desperately needed.

Winter137 said...

I'd also like to 2nd Jara in terms of " acting out in front of white folks" . I don't give a damn what they think because they've never cared about how the world viewed them. In fact, all the damage that has been caused over race, they should worry about us *Kanye shrug*

LikeLena said...

BTW- I just watched that Wanda Sykes special. When she talks about not wanted to buy watermelon because white people are watching, I howled. And I understood. Indeed I did.

diamond life said...

Wow, your parents anc mine were on that same track. I don't know whether it was assumed that we would behave in front of "our own" but they felt an extra reminder was needed in front of "other folks". In fact, that's how it was stated - "Act right in front of other folks". When I have kids (if), I will of course expect them to act right everywhere but I'll no doubt let one or two of my parents' words fly outta my mouth. Can't be mad about it, I turned out alright.

Sarah said...

Hey now, Chele. Deep Breath :-) Looking at the posts this week, I'd say somebody is feeling a little bit of the winter blues. Remember that post you wrote before the end of last year? I couldn't find it when I looked, but it was the one about moving forward and all that. I'd say somebody needs good music, a glass of wine, and a mental holiday to your favorite place. Just an idea :-) Life is too short to spend it in other people's bad moods.

Jara said...

He was explaining that he has white privilege, unlike black people.

SMH in amazement

Jara said...

Yes, acting like I had home-training was a 'round-the-clock expectation, too. You just wrote my stepmother's favorite words to my teen brother: Always act like you know better. You are a reflection of me!!

ASmith said...

I'm glad there was a focus on the difference of opinion and how said differences were expressed in this post. We can analyze what Mayer said all day (and there are some damn good ones floating around) but I was also surprised at some of the reactions.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having a difference of opinion. What I saw, though, was not a simple "difference of opinion" in some of the tweets regarding this matter. What I saw were people trying to use this opportunity to dig at other people. You could support Mayer (or just his right to be a d-bag) without tearing down or attacking others. I don't see any other purpose to "Sisters just mad nobodys checking for them" and other such responses than to attack black women.

I'm really not big into the whole "black women have a hard row to hoe" thing cause ultimately we're all looking out our own window and we all have a hard row to hoe -- the oppression olympics don't give out gold medals and I'm not playing. However, the shoveling of sh*t over this way so as to not have to clean it up yourself is so not ok.

There's this sentiment I've seen in the black blogosphere. It's something that looks a lot like "interracial dating is cool, as long as it's not a black woman with a white man." Mayer got 5 points from some black men for seeming to make their point. We can play semantics and all that as long as we like, but I've seen this over and over again. Even in conversations that aren't about black men, the idea that black women are mean to them and disregard them and hate them and look down on them is always inserted and I saw that happen on Twitter.

I'm game for disagreement, it makes the world go 'round; I'm just not game for someone using their disagreement as opportunity to dump on me.

creosus said...

Chele, I have to say was a little annoyed with you for calling my attention to the Mayer interview in the first place. Before reading it, I thought his music was pleasant enough and never thought much more than that. After reading that mess, I felt as though I destroyed a few brain cells. That was time out of my life I'll never get back! I don't know what compelled me to read a celebrity interview. They are rarely edifying.

On the subject of our people -- unity and civility: It's like you say, "We Must Do Better." Thanks for the reminder. You do have an audience.

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