Tuesday, February 09, 2010

Shades & Pretty Girls: Didn’t we set the paper bag aflame already?

So we've been talking about defining "blackness" per se and I think we've all agreed it's best not to try to encapsulate a race with generalized and assumptive notions. So now I'm wondering if we can agree on that, how about we stop making assumptions about each other within the race? I've been frustrated by the following labels: LSLHBBNA.. . Light Skin, Long Hair, Big Boobs, No-Ass. Though each of these things may be true… okay are true, it's the lazy arrogance of some to put you in a box with those labels and never look any further that sets my teeth on edge. When you tack "Bougie Smart Girl" behind LSLHBBNA, it's a special typecasting you have to work against. For today, let's focus on skin.

My family hosts the entire beautiful rainbow from buttercream to dark chocolate. I thought all families were that way. Have you notices that race and shades of race are something children aren't concerned with until someone else points it out and makes it a big deal?

I distinctly remember being at a Jack & Jill function at age eight with BougieYoungerBro and having a boy that I thought was a friend ask me why my younger brother was darker than me. I stood there confused (since it never occurred to me that this was an issue) and said, "I don't know he just comes that way". The boy went on to ask if we had the same father. I angrily replied, "Of course!" And followed that up with a swift kick to his right ankle. He retaliated by pushing me backwards and BougieYoungerBro started crying and tried to bite him. Good times. By then, some parents had swooped in to break up the conversation. One of the mothers took me and my brother on the side and said, "Don't pay him any mind, his whole family is passe-blanc. They still paper bag test future mates." I went home and had to ask BougieMom to explain to me what had happened.

Let me pause to explain a few things because I know of at least four readers who have no idea what I'm talking about: Jack & Jill is an African-American organization formed in 1938 to allow black children aged 2 – 19 to have cultural opportunities, develop leadership skills, and form social networks. It has always had the reputation of being a bit exclusionary with only "upper" to "upper-middle" class kids included. (I don't know if this is really true or not). Mothers have to be invited in to join the organization. When I was active, pretty much all the kids' parents were doctors, lawyers or executives. Since we all went to schools where often we were the only black (or one of a few blacks) in the school grade, Jack & Jill and the church were the two places where I was surrounded by other black people and not standing out in a crowd.

Passe-blanc is a term used to describe extremely light-skinned people of color who could "pass for white."

The "paper bag test" refers to a practice that originated during slavery. Plantation owners would place a paper bag next to slaves' skin and those that were lighter than the bag were considered worthy to work in the house, those that were darker were sent to the field. This kind of blatant colorism still permeates our thinking today.

From The Hilltop Online (Howard Unviersity Student Newpaper):

According to an article written by Audrey Elisa Kerr, an associate English professor at Southern Connecticut State University, light-skinned slaves-particularly women-were considered "gentler, kinder, more handsome, smarter, and more delicate" than darker-skinned slaves.

Washington, D.C., once played a large role in the dark-skin/light-skin game. Because slavery did not have such an economic impact in the District, many free blacks preferred to reside in the area. In the mid-19th century, barbershops began accommodating only light-skinned black men.

Not only was race a factor, but skin tone became one. Churches, schools and various organizations utilized the paper bag test for social verification. There were also multitudes of brown bag parties, clubs, and social circles.

With colorism having such strong bearing in the nation's capital, Howard has been accused of utilizing the brown paper bag test.

Inclusion in various organizations sometimes depended on skin tone as well.

Dr. Jennifer Jordan, an African-American literature professor at Howard, doesn't believe much has changed in the overall scope of the paper bag theory.

"Look at the rappers and their music videos," Jordan said. "[Colorism] exists everywhere."

Speaking of rappers, Wale (a DC-based rapper) infuriated a large portion of the Twitterverse by previewing his video for Pretty Girls Monday. Problem? The majority of the pretty girls in his video were light-skinned. Now I don't know if being denied an opportunity to shake your ass is justice denied… really. Add to this the fact that he also has out another song called "Shades" in which he details the dynamic of being a dark-skinned man who had previous issues with light-skinned women and Chrisette Michele (a light skinned-woman) sung on that track with him. Based on all the evidence, I didn't see it as a big deal. Others disagreed. Here's the video, tell me what you think:

The thing that disturbs me is that we are STILL talking about it in 2010. I recall about 10 years ago being a restaurant with some girlfriends. As it happened, I was the lightest skinned girl at the table. The dark-skinned waiter would come to the table and speak directly to me, no one else. After the second time, they teased me saying, "Well at least we'll get good service since there's somebody acceptable at the table." They laughed but I wasn't amused. I said, "Come on, how do you know that's what it is? Maybe I remind him of someone." They all laughed and one said, "Yeah, his future baby mama. If you smile a little bigger, we might get these crabcakes for free, girl."

As the night went on and he got more and more obvious with his blatant exclusion of everyone at the table but me, I was increasingly upset. "I'm going to call him on it." They all said, "No!" I asked, "Why not?" One answered, "Girl, this is just how some folks are. Light bright and damn near white is always right in their eyes. We can get mad and rail about it but they aren't going to change their minds. And if you call him out on it, you go from being some ideal girl in his head to some stuck up chick trying to tell him about himself. We still have to order dessert." The episode unsettled me because to me, they were accepting his disrespect. Later they reminded me that you have to pick your battles. Telling off the waiter at a restaurant we'd never go to again wasn't one they felt was worth fighting.

In Wal-mart the other day, I heard some young girls talking about how happy they were about the way their babies turned out. Healthy? I thought. No. One girl said her girl was light skinned and the other said her boy was dark skinned and that's the way it should be. She did not want her boy to look like "no punk". Uh – has skin tone ever been an indicator of punky vs. thuggy behavior? Back in the day both Ice-T and Ice Cube scared me shitless, now I'd let either of them babysit BougieFam. The one girl said she was glad her baby girl was light skinned with "good hair" because life would be easier for her. For real tho? That baby girl's less than intelligent underage mama is buying glitter to put on her baby's onesie for Mardi Gras but she's gonna have an easy road due to skin and hair?

I could go on and on all day. The guy who told me not to get "too much sun" on vacation because he liked his ladies to "keep it light." The guy who told me if I "darken it up" he could take me out, he only dated "real" sistas. There are so many instances where the words 'color-struck' don't even begin to cover it. And I haven't enough time or energy to discuss the ascension of Barack Obama to the Presidency as it relates to skintone. I'll just ask this question – if Barack looked like Djimon Hounsou, was he electable?


Okay maybe a few more questions, do you think as a race we will EVER get beyond skintone? Has your life been impacted (negatively or positively) because of your shade of skin?

Tomorrow on BnB explores blackness…. Hair. Le Sigh.

53 comments:

Inkognegro said...

Yeah....Im sad now. I'm gonna just walk over there and Smash my head up against the wall. Sigh.

I love my people. I swear I do.

That is all.

jake said...

My girlfriend is a dark chocolate color and it never occurs to me to describe her as anything other than beautiful. I'm more concerned with her heart and mind than her skin anyway.

BB Waite said...

Oh, I see you are trying to start something today. This debate right here is one I wish we could kill dead. The scars people carry from being called high yellow, blue-black and every insulting thing in between are carried into adulthood. Sometimes my people are our own worst enemies.

BTW - that video is ridiculous. I, for one, am over trolly-looking rappers adding to stereotypes.

midwestdominicana said...

This piece made me really sad. It's a shame that we allowed our great nationalism and strength and worth be defined by something we can not and never will be able to (without medical and scientific intervention) control. Those poor children who grow up with unnecessary stigmas in their little heads thinking better or less of themselves or other people because their ignorant parent(s) shoveled this garbage down their throats is the greatest injustice.

I agree with Jake...many of the people in my family have been mistaken for white or some other nationality besides black but all I've seen my whole life are people that I love and people that are beautiful. We have such a mixture in our DNA that truly no one can lay claim to just one source of skin color. I am proud of my Irish, French, Dominican, and African heritages. All of those nations met in one place at one time to create someone who is indefinable.

Each person is invidual and unlike anyone else on Earth. The Bible tells us that we are "wonderfully and fearfully made" and furthermore that "God is no respector of persons" which means that there is no distinction between color or height, eye color, language, background or nationality when it comes to our Creator thinking highly of us. If the Supreme Almighty God can look on us with love and adoration, shouldn't we in our small humanness be able to do the same? After all, we are created in His image.

Don't mean to sound all preachy and such...but seriously...who can pick their own skin color or hair type? No matter what we look like, someone will find fault with us. Someone will hate on who we are and what we have and what we do. The fact is that it's about people being unhappy with themselves and their situations. Color is just a crutch for some folks to fall on and use as an excuse to project their own ignorance and inner-discord on someone else. Good hair? Give me a friggin break!! If you can comb it...it's good enough to me. If you got hair at all...that's a good thing. I tell my daughter every day how beautiful her curly, knotty, sparse hair is. She will probably always have curls and maybe have to negotiate the comb through them, but she will always have a sense that her hair is beautiful and her brown eyes and full lips are gorgeous accessories picked out for her face by God Himself.

My greatest experiences with racism have been from people who look most like me. It breaks my heart and it needs to stop. I can no more change what I look like than I can change the number of stars in the sky. Chele was right when she said how disturbing it is that we are in 2010...the 21st century and this balderdash is still exiting the lips of modern people.

Every shade of the rainbow is a beautiful one.

Sweet N Tart said...

Man, let's have a discussion on whether Terrence Howard or Wesley Snipes are in or out this year. To answer your question, no - we will not ever be past this debate. It's too deeply ingrained in our racial conscience.

Queen of Me said...

It's my fervent prayer that my kids (don't have any yet) won't be having this same discussion 40 years from now. As a dark-skinned sister I've been called out my name so many times, I don't even hear it any more. Just seems like it's one of those barriers we can't get past. I was on another site where they said Barack Obama is beige not black. Stop it already.

Pure Choco said...

I could write paragragh after paragragh on all of this. The thing that struck me the most was the dude who said you had to "darken up" cuz he only dated "real" sistas. What. The. Hell? Like the darker you are, the more real you are? Aargh. WAKE UP PEOPLE.

Steve said...

First of all, Shades is a great song. Pretty Girls - not so much. As a large dark skinned brother I've been called Mandingo, Zulu and so many other things. I've had a girlfriend say she was worried about our child look like because of my skin. Now at some point, you just have to decide that you are the shit and damn what anybody (ANYBODY) says. The sooner you make that discovery, the better off you'll be. Tune out everything else. Videos like this make me miss the Colors of Benetton commercials.

maureen palmer said...

This issue of skin is beyond the borders of the great USA. I'm original from Kenya and have been here for about 12 years and it is the same thing back at home. My tribe we tend be dark skin and most men from my tribe tend to marry light skin women. It is sad that in 2010 we are still dealing with this issue, i think it is safe to say skin tone issue is one of those issues that we can't escape.

OneChele said...

Excellent points. And yes sad, that the worst cases of ignorance and hate come from within the race. Thanks for this. Brilliantly written.

OneChele said...

Thanks for sharing. I had not thought about colorism beyond the US. So worldwide "skintervention" needed.

1BlkGuy said...

I agree, very well said.

Hidi said...

Amen. No you are not sounding preachy; we all need to read what you wrote. It is so true, and it is a shame we are still discussing it in 2010. Honestly, I do not think it will never stop until the end of time. In my family, I have relatives white as snow and black as dark chocolate, so the colorism thing is ridiculous. In retrospect, it is true that children do not notice a person's skin color until someone mentions it.

As a side note: Colorism exists all over the world...i.e. India, Asia, African and Europe countries, etc.

Lady4Real said...

Bougie Cuz, it is sad to say that shade is still prominent in our culture and probably always will be. I have many stories to tell; I'm the lightest out of my Dad's children, the darkest girl out of my moms children, my S.O. is Djimon complected (i know its not a word, lol) but our son is lighter then me and we were glad that he did get my light skin (SMH, but his dad was the happiest about it). I've had to fight on behalf of my younger sister because she was 'too light', I've had to love my S.O. past his insecurites because as a child his family, school mates and complete strangers talked so badly about his dark skin, I can't even get the poor man to watch the BET Honors because he is so bitter that he doesn't really care about his history, he feels that 'his people don't like him or care about him, why should he like or care about them', I can't blame him though, I've known him since we were 10 and I know the cruel things people have said to him and about him. I hate the paper bag, but it is alive and well and a sad, sad shame.

1blkguy said...

I'm a medium skinned black guy and I date the rainbow. And yet I only catch hell from the sisters when I date white or very light skinned black women. I'm dating for the person, not the covering but I wish more people thought like that.

Lady4Real said...

I feel you Steve, my S.O. is a dark skinned man, I've known him since we were 10 and he's suffered so much verbal abuse. He was so happy that our son got my light skin complexion. He's more confident in his skin now, but from time to time I can still see his wounds.

Troy said...

Aw man, let's not make this a "sisters mad at me" issue. Basically, since slavery (probably before) white folks been telling black folks that the lighter you are the better. When the message gets repeated enough, people start to believe that shit. The media reinforces it. So when a sister sees a brother with something light on his arm, the first reaction is that he is reinforcing that thinking too. They will get beyond it if you are sincere in liking who you like for the interior not the exterior. But if you are struggling and a darker skin girl is your flavor, don't get some money and switch tastes... that can get you side-eyed, slapped or stabbed.

Okay, stepping off high horse.

uglyblackjohn said...

Video - I'd say that only half of the Black women were light skinnned.
The video features women of all races and all skin tones.
I don't see a problem.

Color Struck - WASPs have Blue Bloods, Asians have the geisha, and we have Vanessa Williams.
Most cultures seem to favor lighter skin as a sign of civility - not just American Blacks.

datdudeincali said...

I have a dark-skinned daughter who has green eyes - people are confused as hell looking at her, then back at me, then back at her. I have no desire to explain geneology and how things can skip a generation to folks. The first person to call her a name besides the one I gave her is catching a face full of Daddy's fist.

Andrea M said...

did you watch the same video I did? Not exactly (as someone said below) a Benetton commercial. I feel like if you know your fan base includes a wide range of African American females, you should cater to that.

Andrea M said...

LMAO at "trolly-rappers"

uglyblackjohn said...

Yep.
It's Wale.
Wale who works with Lady Gaga and Marc Ronson.
Wale who is said to have an "alternative' influence.
It only makes sence since his audience in not soley that of Black females but of anyone who'd buy his music.
This song is meant as a crossover - not an anthem to Black women.

JaymeC said...

I remember in college one young man told me I was "pretty for a dark-skinned girl" - that stuck with me quite a bit. What I'm sure he meant as a flippant offhand statement came at a time when I was just learning about what my attractiveness level was. So something that should be trivial - shade of skin - becomes an issue and yet another thing to overcome when building self-esteem. Hopefully, discussions like this one will make people be more sensitive and pass that sensitivity down to their kids and so on and so on. Ignorance is a learned behavior but so is kindness.

daisy said...

Clearly. :-|

Yoruba Mutakabbir said...

I have gotten the pretty for a dark skinned girl comment before too, not from anyone who really mattered though. I wouldn't say my life has been impacted. But I know some folk who are colorstruck, for real and I think it came straight from their upbringing. I think both Djimon and the President look "presidential" Now if Obama was fat, had acne, buckteeth, thick glasses, one leg and a kick stand, no he wouldn't stand a chance at being elected. Its about attractiveness I think.

Suzie S said...

Well one day, we'll have to talk baout how many segmetations there are in the Hispanic community. Beyond skin tone (lighter is better here too), there's Spanish people that don't want to be confused with Mexican people. Mexican-American who don't want to claim the Mexican part. Don't call someone from Cuba a Puerto Rican or Dominican... it goes on and on.

SpkTruth2Pwr said...

Great article. I have to say unfortunately that the skin color issue only unpacks more questions as we seek answers, because it is so ingrained and as someone else commented earlier, it seems every culture has their fixation with light is right.

I remember out in CA, I was walking past manicure place, and they were also advertising a special on "bleaching" to lighten up the skin...where they do that at? Apparently worldwide.

I am on the fence about the Wale video. I saw a diversity of sizes and shades, but I can say there weren't as many darker women in it. His fan base is more than just black people though, so how many body type/skin color/hair style combinations can he pull into a 5 min song? I don't know.

But it is definitely true that music is an extension of society, and the battles we see with light vs. dark pervades culture whether we want to admit it or not.

Grace said...

The first time someone called me "red-bone" I had no idea what they were talking about. By the time I figured it out, I wasn't sure whether to be insulted, affronted or just shrug it off. I was called a colorist for only dating dark-skinned men. (Not true by the way) But it forced me to double check myself. In my case, my father, my uncles, my brothers were all dark-skineed so you love what you know right? Was it that I wouldn't be attracted to the same man I'm with now if he came in lighter tones or a different race? I just don't know. Definitely food for thought.

OneChele said...

I have to agree. Clearly this is an issue that is generations deep and continents wide.

thinklikeRiley said...

I just like what I like which happens to be a light-exotic looking built babe with long hair and pretty eyes. So what?

Bailey Quincy said...

So you've decided to deliberately miss the main idea to say something polarizing in your bid for attention. We see you. Grow up already.
Love, A Dark-Skinned Beauty... recognize!

Reads4Pleasure said...

Riley, go play in the traffic.

Bailey Quincy said...

Moving on... in parts of Great Britain it is much, much worse. Your skin color is almost a class. Like the lighter you are, the more social acceptance you have. It may get better but it will never end.

Diana said...

Hey, token white girl reading all of this with sadness and interest. My biggest thing has been about eye-color. The rest of my family has hazel eyes, mine are plain brown. Not quite as traumatizing as the stories shared here.

But question for you Chele - how many times a week do you want to hit the delete button on some of the comments you get?

OneChele said...

You have no idea how often my mouse hovers over the "moderate" button. But people are entitled to their opinions, even those that may be narrow-minded and not quite with the spirit of my post. All are welcome. Thankfully, most of my good visitors/dwellers in BougieLand are intelligent, articulate and well-meaning.

derek love said...

I can tell from reading comments who dates outside the race and who doesn't. NTTAWWT!

Listen, I like my sisters - all colors all sizes all shapes. When I find one who radiates beauty from the inside and who is 100% down for Derek, I'm done. So if you know anyone like that in the SeaTac area... holla!

OneChele said...

Are you using BougieLand to get a date? LMAO!

derek love said...

Beg pardon, I am far more classy than that. I'm using BougieLand to find a "life partner".. thank you. Quit blockin' my action. HA!

uglyblackjohn said...

Whites have issues too.
"Who" is white and "How white" are they.
Gingerism is even a problem in some places.

Melzie said...

My family consists of the rainbow too, Chele. Like you, I never even thought about skin color until elementary school classmates pointed it out. People rarely initially recognize my sister and I as relatives solely based on skin color. It is very sad, and in some cases disturbing, that we still deal with this nonsense. As you said, lazy ignorance is at the root of all this hooey.

It also trips me out that people still act like the lighter skinned slaves had it "better" when we know good and well they were raped also and nursed master's kids as their own, etc. Somewhere along the line we chose to hold this divisiveness tight and refuse to let it go. Sad to say, but I found myself counting the various shades of women in Wale's video, it never would've crossed my mind if I hadn't seen a tweet about it :-(.

OneChele said...

Exactly. By the way BougieLand, if you all have not checked out Melzie's blog The Curvy Girl Chronicles , swing on by.

Stank_0 said...

Colorism is bigger than just here. It happens in S. America, India, and Japan to name a few places. It's unfortunate that it persists like a bad rash.

P.S. Appreciate the twitter follow. Your on one of my lists.

P.P.S. Climate change is real! The snow is on my last good nerve. Give DC free!

OneChele said...

Looks like I could devote a whole week to International Colorism and never scratch the service. A shame.

p.s. It's 24 degrees in Dallas with snow forecast for tomorrow or Thursday. I'm ready for Mother Nature to quit tripping.
p.p.s. Is being on one of your lists a good thing? LOL!

Melzie said...

Thanks for the love!

ASmith said...

I HATE being late to a BNB party.

Honestly, my first response (check my Twitter) to the Wale situation was "maybe we should see what these girls are doing before we get upset. He may have done the dark-skinned girls a favor..." I'm over the "unfair representation" of women in rap videos. Let's first assess how women, period, are treated before we get mad about who is and isn't in the video.

What disappoints me most about this is how it affects children. Watching little girls pick the white doll over the black doll as the "better" baby makes my heart hurt. I mean, adults -- ok -- we have our issues, but MUST we pass this mess on to our kids? How do we ever expect to get from under it??

Stank_0 said...

yeah, I thought the US only had color issues, and I was unpleasantly surprised to learn its global.

Wow! I can remember one time that it snowed in Big D.

Yeah my lists are good. You are on the blogs of interest list.

Sherell57 said...

I am from DC and I went to Howard. My mom was a Delta from NC A&T she graduated in the early fifties, neeedless to say she was very light. My father a Que from South Carolina State was darker. My siblings and I were pretty much a bit lighter than a bag and color was never ain issue in our house. But cousins on father side were the ones that always made reference to our complexion. It was always the darker relatives that raised the issue with me as a child. My son who is much lighter than me was perplexed when some distance relaives made reference to his complexion. At 8 I had to explain to him the history and background and said "that's really dmd" why does it matter. They discriminate against all Blacks. Out of the moths of babes!

Jara said...

My family is like yours, Chele - covers the entire skin tone spectrum. My maternal light-bright-damn-near-white-with-straight-hair grandmother married a very dark man with kinky hair to make sure her children "had color & curl". My dad's side are pretty much all the same color - medium brown. As my dad once joked: "I'm that "lucky brown". Whichever group of blacks I was around claimed me." HOWEVER, once I left the safety of my "colorblind" family, I had to deal with a lot of B.S. from "MY OWN PEOPLE" more than whites.

I don't think any shade of black has it worse than any other. We all get teased. We all enjoy privilege. We all experience discrimination. Contrary to what darker-skinned blacks think, white people lump us all in the same "other" category. The only light-skinned privilege I've noticed is that whites feel more comfortable expressing their bigotry to me (light skin = Safe Negro) than they would to a darker-skinned black without a badge or gun to "equalize" the situation.

When darker-skinned blacks complain about how light-skinned people were able to be in the house with Massa, do they ever stop to think what was going on in the Big House? Is it a privilege to be raped? Is it a privilege to have to take care of whiny, spoiled Massa kids while your kids are treated like 2nd class citizens (albeit better than kids of field negroes IF your kids were the Massa's kids)? Who cares if Wale has some light-skinned video hoes? Like you wrote, is this really an honor? Why are people worrying about the preferences of people who aren't worried about you? C'mon, black people. Think before you argue.

It's a function of black people still wanting approval from whitey. Who cares who whitey prefers?

And comparing Barack Obama to Djimon Honsou is like comparing apples to rocks - too many differences for the comparison to even be valid. Maybe more black people (of all hues) should run for office so we can test out all of these skin color theories so many of us have.

Color struck blacks (including the ones who discriminate AGAINST light-skinned blacks) aren't going away anytime soon. But I wish this conversation topic would.

We just had another beautiful brown-skinned woman named Miss America recently (after recovering from Awkward Teen Syndrome) and I haven't seen any of us discuss this. I guess it's more entertaining to bitch about things we can't change than to focus on the things that do change.

Let's change the subject. Please.

uglyblackjohn said...

My father is Creole from Church Point Louisiana - My mom is half-Mexican/half-Native American.
My skin tone goes from pastey in the Winter - to golden brown (like the pancakes on the Bisquick box) in the Summer.
After one gets over being "Black" (not "mixed"), one often has to deal with discrimination from whites and Blacks.
But it all comes out about even.
Where being lighter is better in some situations it can be a problem in others.
On the whole, it's really not a big deal (except for those who assume that lighter Blacks have it easier).
But where darker Blacks may be fighting on one front, mixed race or lighter-skinned Blacks often have to fight on two.

LovelyParadox said...

I definitely agree with you... The subject is trite and I believe that to keep harping on it doesn't help anything.

I personally don't pay much attention to people's shade... I am very dark-skinned and my family has a rainbow of colors, but I don't think I have been very conscious of it most of my life... Yes, I have heard some "interesting" comments (very few and far between actually) and I have dated across the rainbow... A lot of my American friends assume that me not growing up here probably helped in my non-issue with color which is not entirely true. Colorism exists everywhere (cf. West African (where I am from) women bleaching themselves to skin disease and death for proof)... I think my attitude comes from the fact that I learned relativism really early... i.e some people will not find you beautiful and it's ok. Some people will not find you smart and it's ok. What matters is what YOU think of yourself (Thanks Dad!)... So yeah, the debate is kind of moot. We should focus on what we can improve and stop going over things we can't change.

NATUI said...

You brought up so many excellent points of discussion, but what I'd really like to know is if you regret not having called that waiter out?

OneChele said...

Just a little bit...

Babies0408 said...

This subject is always very interesting to me. I am not speaking of just people of color but all people. The question of color in classe is in so many countries it is amazing. In vietnam if you were darker skinned it meant that you worked in the field and therefore are a lower classe. It is amazing in 2010 this is so important to people. I also must add that if you speak to the majority of caucasion people they dont view a shade of color different than any other shade because when it comes down to it we are black. One drop of black blood.....

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