Tuesday, November 24, 2009

Trying not to hate on… Beyoncé and Jay-Z

Why is everybody so mad at Bey and Jay? Why ya'll hatin'? Every time one or the two gets mentioned, folks have a whole lot of yackity-yack. Sure her hair lives it's own life, she has developed an irrational fear of pants and he resembles Joe Camel but is that any reason for the amount of bile and anger directed at these two? Sure, they are little over-cautious and super-secretive on that whole "we're married and we live together" thing but can you blame them? They do not want any additional scrutiny then they already get.

Let's be clear about something, they make pop music. That means popular. Neither of them promised to save the world through music, re-invigorate R&B or bring Hip-Hop back to the real. They call themselves entertainers and let's face it… they really are. Whether you agree with Beyoncé's singing style or the freshness of Jay's rhymes, you cannot deny that they put on a good show. Come on now, check out this video and tell me it's not at least a little fun (damn tune is catchy as hell), '03 Bonnie & Clyde:

People tend to have a "love-her-or-hate-her" relationship with Ms. Knowles-Carter, I tend to flip-flop. I love the hustle but lately her songs have kind of left me lukewarm. This was the last song of hers that I actually really enjoyed (like pissed off how many men by blaring it in the car enjoyed), Irreplaceable:

Mr. Sean J. Carter tends to get mixed reactions as well. Some hip-hop purists feel like he sold out, some younger rap fans feel he's past his prime but I just think he makes decent tunes (for the most part) that I can rap along to without looking up every other word in the Urban Dictionary. I know people who hated this song with a passion but I found it quite infectious, Show Me What Ya Got:

Let's just be honest with ourselves, folks are hating on Mr. and Mrs. Carter because they live far better lives than most of us can dream of… and I dream pretty big. We wear clothes, they own clothing lines. We listen to records, they own record labels. We enjoy scents, they are creating custom colognes and perfumes with their names on them. We sit by a pool, they are cruising St. Tropez on Tiger Woods' yacht. We talk about the White House, they get invited in. Okay? Be happy black people got it like that in 2009 and quit hating. Unless you want to hate on Jada and Will, I could rustle up some arguments for that one.

Do you love or hate the Carters? Why? Is there another celebrity you love to hate? Do explain.

25 comments:

kiki said...

I think they are fabulous, I have no beef!

queenome said...

Well I have one word for the Carters - overexposed. Iz tired of seeing her gladiator-sandaled, leotard-wearing, weavealicious self strutting around and right now, Camel Joe is everywhere. A lower profile would not kill them

Liselle said...

Chele - I hate that Jay song, it was one long product placement. But okay, I'll give you the infectious beat. And I would agree that this last album of Bey's with the exception of Single Ladies was very "womp, womp, womp"

tiffanyinhouston said...

This.

I love Jigga's aura. His swag stays on one thousand trillion and he's a smart cookie. Bey is obviously talented (at least the singing arena, acting not so much) but she's so one note. She has the license to stretch herself a bit and she won't. And she does need to find some slacks every now and then.

OneChele said...

"Nine-figure ninjas aren't on every corner..." This we know for sure....

datdudeincali said...

Whether you believe that these two are musically gifted (I happen to think they are) or not, you can't deny their impact on music for the last 15 years. And the hustle cannot be topped. Does anyone think that without the Roca hustle, BeyBey would've given Jay the time of day? Nine-figure ninjas aren't on every corner...

Stank_0 said...

I don't sweat Mrs. Carter too much, but I feel like Jay no longer has that hunger anymore. He has more money than he ever dreamed of making...he has no motivation.

I don't expect him to raise the art but at least push your lyrics. You can't even compare most of his work pre-Vol. 3 with post-Vol. 3 with the exception of the Blueprint.

Reasonable Doubt and the Blueprint were albums the rest have been CDs. I feel like he is eating off his name now. Maybe he needs another legendary beef to get re-invigorated? Eminem?

Joy Andrews said...

And therein lies the truth. Pants and bringing some fresh to the musical table would get Bey out of my doghouse. Jay is doing Jay - can't hate on that.

Cassie said...

I'm a HOVA stan, no doubt about it. True, he's not spitting lyrical genius like he used to but, I'm still happy with his product over most rappers out there. Beyo... I like better with Destiny's Child, I really did. But like everyone else, I can't get mad at the hustle skills.

OneChele said...

Agreed. I think it was LL who said - it's hard to stay mad when you haven't worried about a light bill in 10 years. There seems to be a period where rappers go from talking about getting off the streets and the hustle to repping their cities to rapping about all the cool stuff they own to having nothing to rap about. Like you said, unless someone throws shade there's nothing interesting left to say.

JustPassingBy said...

Great quote. I think it's amazing that so many people aren't feeling them but those albums keep going platinum - numbers don't lie

William said...

haven't like Yonce since Me, Myself and I. Jay lost me after Hard Knock Life.
They both put out music that is a little too blingy.

OneChele said...

"Blingy" music - got it

Page Bartlett said...

I think the whole conversation is hilarious. I would like to hate on Will and Jada please. He's not real and she's... insincere.

storm529 said...

At this point, neither of their musical output moves me. Sadly, IMO, musically, both are just going thru the motions to make that paper (and, dang, they do make a whole lotta paper. So I ain't too mad at them.)

Bey does have a beautiful singing voice, but she squanders it on awful material. And, Jay lost his passion a long, long time ago.

They are a great entertainment power couple -- fabulously weathly, ambitious, attractive (speaking of Bey) and talented.

RASHIDAF said...

Thanks for posting this... my girlfriend and I were having the same conversation the other day! I am so pleased that black people like Mr. and Mrs. Carter get to live out "The Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" dreams that we all have. Although I don't knock their hustle, I so despise what they and their ilk represent in our society. I wish that sistagirl would actually start singing again, buy some pants, and not worry so much about shaking her azz on stage. When did we start only paying attention to ladies with alright voices just because they are pretty? This is why I haven't been to a concert in awhile- if I can play your cds/videos on YouTube and get the same experience, I'll save my $50 for something important, like cute fall boots and such.

ASmith said...

I'm never one to knock someone's hustle. So I knock neither for that.

I am side-eyeing Ay Bey Bey's regression with the content of her songs, but again it's part of her hustle.

I've never been a JayZ fan and I think he's overrated, but he said it best "men lie, women lie, numbers don't"

MidWestDominicana said...

I think BP3 is JayZ's best album in a very long time. He's reinvented his style in such a way that is like a legendary artist. He is iconic, but no one should be surprised at that. What else do we have to look forward to (President and First Lady Obama excluded) Michael Steele? Uhhhh...no thanks. We're in an age where there is no greater power of influence than the media in all its sordid forms. JayZ has political saavy, he's far-reaching in his lyrics (LOVE, love, love D.O.A -it's time to die, autotune). Not saying that he's the greatest rapper, but for me, for my age (31) and for what I care about, JayZ works. I'm not his biggest fan and I only actually heard BP3 because my husband was playing it, but I respect what I know of the man and I wish him continued big baller status success.

As for Mrs. Carter...well.....my opinions are mixed. She's definitely left the "Independent Woman" do your own thing and be powerful in your own right mantra behind and succumbed to the "blingy" music poppness we see everywhere. I know that there are an uncountable number of men (and women) who appreciate seeing her hindparts plastered all over their screen, but no one more than me hates to see women keep slipping right into the roll of "nothing but a belly warmer" with not much else to offer. She is talented and girl can work a pair of stilettos, but please, please, please sing about something else besides booty, your no-good cheatin man, sex and crazy dreams. Where's the soul?

All in all, they ARE a power couple and the only reason we have any cause to hate is simply what's already been stated. They get to be the fairy prince and princess that we all want to be in some way. Our men will keep fantasizing about "checking up on Bey" and us ladies will probably visit the idea of rolling in all of JayZ's money a few times. Instead of sipping on our "haterade", maybe we should be trying to get into the Carter Business School of Ridiculous and Obscene Money Making.

I'd sure sign up!

OneChele said...

Yes, I think we all must agree that there is a whole lot more a$$ shaking than actual sangin' going on these days.

jake said...

Cosign and well said. Let's be real, if Beyonce wasn't crazy fine, who would be paying attention? She's the Diana Ross of her day, kinda talented, kinda charismatic and very savvy. Jay Z now makes music you can play at a party for anyone and no one gets mad. Like he said, he's got the baddest chick in the game wearing his chain.

courtney aka glamah said...

Joe Camel! LOL!

RASHIDAF said...

This post reminds me of something that Panama on VSB said about Bey... to paraphrase, he said that she had the personality of a brick of cocaine. Just a really hot girl and not much else. LOL

The Lady said...

I don't consider myself a hater of the Carters, I love to see a Black couple making cash and doing their thing, however the Mrs. is completely overrated. She's nice to look at and can dance her behind off in 5 inch stilettos, but that's where the true talent ends. Before you jump all over me, let me just say that my idea of a true vocalist is someone with true skill and range. Think Alicia Keys, Jill Scott, etc. I'm tired of this horrible, cookie cutter, conveyor belt style noise that is dressed up as music.

MidWestDominicana said...

Sorry...still hatin' on Alicia Keys for that mess with SwizzBeats (yeah, I know she's not the only one to blame). I don't think she's that great a singer, but she can rock a set of black and whites like nobody's business.

And agree with Page...booo to Will and Jada! Can we please keep our bedroom escapades in the bedroom and off the media circuit? If you like swingin and doing your freak-nasty, mad props to you, but truly, I do not want or need to hear about it on CNN. Ick, ick, ick.

rikyrah said...

hate is a strong word. I do wish Beyonce would just ' go away'.

'Go away' ....look up OVEREXPOSED and her picture would be plastered everywhere.

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