Thursday, October 08, 2009

Why the Double Standard? Issue #4: B!tchy vs. Aggressive

Okay, today's post is mostly stream of consciousness OneChele randomness… stay with me and dig in. It's the old semantics game on Double Standard Week.

Strength, Courage & Wisdom is not only the name of one of my favorite songs by the incomparable India.Arie, it is also a list of attributes that are often assessed differently in men and women. What is perceived as a positive in men can sometimes be considered a negative in women.

I'm just going to pose a few questions/make a few stereotypical generalizations first:

Why is it that if a woman is really strong, she's labeled "too independent for her own good" but if I man is really strong, he's a great leader?

Why is it that if a woman has a weak moment, she's "emotional" but if a man has a weak moment, he's sensitive and in touch with his feminine side? (But then again, when was the last time we saw a whiny, sniffling male [who wasn't just jailed, attending a funeral or holding up a championship trophy] and thought that was okay? Just food for thought, people. )

Why is it that if a woman is really smart, she's the intimidating brainiac but if a man is really smart, he's the Chairman of the Board?

A woman who gossips is a nosy busybody; a man who gossips is just sharing information.

A woman who keeps her own counsel is aloof and hard-to-know; a man who does the same is circumspect.

A woman who points out a perceived slight is insecure and irrational; a man is "justifiably upset"

A woman who speaks her mind and shares her honest opinion is a ball-busting bitch but a man who does the same is a take charge go-getter. Where's the line between bitchy and aggressive?

I could go on for days, but let me share a BougiePlantationTale:

For a little while, BougieSis and I worked on the same paycheck plantation, a consulting company. We travelled 90% of the time, worked 90 -100 hour weeks, managed teams upwards of a 100 people each and regularly commiserated on the fire and brimstone that rained down on our heads. The Talent Acquisition team was run by an Irish cat who was off the chains with the "old school-ness" and reporting to him where a catty klatch of women that BougieSis and I reported to. The dynamics in the department were always a little skewed. Human Resources has historically been a female-dominated profession and the insertion of a Vice-President (with no recruiting experience) over a recruiting-centric woman-filled department was… troublesome at best. The Sr. Directors that BougieSis and I reported to leaned heavily (way too heavily) on their Directors (BougieSis and I with a few other folks) and the VP recognized this. Soon, he circumvented the Sr. Directors and came straight to us. That man blew up my BlackBerry morning, noon and night including one memorable occasion of my birthday (which I was taking as a personal day). It also happened to fall on MLK Day (which I always take as a holiday) and I had made myself clear that unless the 68 offices where my staff was housed nationwide simultaneously burst into flame, I wasn't to be disturbed on my day off. So when the work BlackBerry rang and rang and rang again, I was annoyed and turned it off. Then my house phone rang.

He said, "I just need this one thing, you're the only person who can do it."

"Of the 4200 people in the department, I'm the ONLY person who can pull together this presentation for you?"

"Well yes."

"You do realize it's my birthday?"

"Yes."

"And MLK day?"

"Yes."

"Okay, how about I call you on St. Patrick's Day, would you like that?"

At any rate, the next day, I was asked to join a conference call with him and the Senior Directors. They wanted to know why he was coming directly to me instead of going through them. His response, "She thinks like a man." **crickets**

Finally one of them jumped in, "What does that MEAN?"

He said, "It means she takes direction without asking a ton of questions, she doesn't get emotional or hysterical. And she dishes out as much bullshit as I give her."

The conference call disintegrated from there, they verbally abused that man about the head and neck. Less than a year later, he bailed to spend some time sailing around the Gulf of Mexico and was replaced by a female. (She actually didn't last much longer but by then BougieSis and I had thrown the deuces and broken for freedom). The point of the story is that beyond my ability to manage teams, dazzle clients, create hiring strategies and analyze data; the thing that impressed my male VP more than anything else was that I acted like one of the guys.

Fact: Women outnumber men 1.85 to 1 (depending on studies) in higher education yet 83.7% of CEO's are male. Somewhere between getting the degrees and reaching senior executive level (an average of 22.6 years), the numbers get terribly skewed. And don't even get me started on equal pay.

But enough of corporate America, let's talk about the real world. For years, I regularly was the one chick hanging out with my S.O. and eight to twelve of his posse. They would embark on guy's outings but said, "Chele can come, she's cool." So, I asked about it one day… how come I get invited along on the no-girlfriend weekend? They answered, "You mind your own business, understand SportsCenter, roll when it's time to roll, and don't nag about unnecessary sh!t. You're a dude with lady parts." Wow, is that plus the ability to pee standing up what "manhood" has boiled down to? Okay then, if I can do those things, let me ask you fellas a few questions:

I can kill my own spiders, why can't you change a roll of toilet paper?

I can mow the lawn, why can't you buy new bath towels in ten years time?

I can install my own stereo equipment, can you re-introduce your shower ring to Scrubbing Bubbles?

I've learned when to pass you the remote control and a beer and leave you in peace, can you walk through Macy*s shoe department for thirty minutes without acting like I've staked you out in the Mojave desert (naked on top an ant pile, drenched in honey, at high noon)?

And one last point: Since when does a woman being able to do things for herself mean she doesn't need (or want) a man? A point brilliantly broken down by Jill Scott in her song: The Fact Is (I Need You). When it's all said and done, we do love the XY chromosome. (We'd love you more on a more even playing field). Here's the song:

So I ask you, Bouge Nation? Am I wrong, am I only seeing the Double Standard from my side? I'm willing to admit that I'm looking at this based on my decidedly female experience. So share and enlighten me: Do men get stroked for things that women get knocked for?

39 comments:

DatdudeinCali said...

OneChele - come on now all lot of these may have been true years ago but not so much anymore. Evolution?

QueenofMe said...

Dat Dude - what are you talking about? I gave a presentation THIS week at work and my boss said it was well prepared but too "emotionally delivered". He had a male co-worker deliver the same message to a group later in the day and said it was "brilliant" I asked other people what the difference was, answer I got: none except that he pees standing up.

Jayme C said...

Oh if I had a dime for everytime I heard this one! Yes, it's 2009 but there are still the attitudes that women should do twice as much as men to get half as far. And what's worse, with all this publicity about how hard it is to get a man- now a lot of men think that if they show up, they have done their part. Yes we want you and need you but we are not going to twist ourselves into a pretzel and bring you mustard.

Go Chele with that last section about the spiders and Macys. This post was really well written.

Bailey Q said...

Please give the longitude and latitude of all these evolved males who know longer think like this, that is where I want to work and live and sleep and eat. And then you can point me to the leprechaun's pot of gold and life will be perfect.

Sasha in Stilettos said...

Love that Jill Scott song! LOL at your old boss. Classic corporate bs 101! 

Funny that now men are getting laid off at faster rates then women (because their pay was so much higher) so it's kind of a last man standing vibe where I work. This has not stopped the remaining big dogs from all the boys club nonsense though. 

ASmith said...

I'm either angry cause I'm black or emotional cause I'm female.

It's frustrating that I have to be so conscious of all I say, how and when I say it as well as who I say it to. JEESH...

But the double standard is real. I've had male friends make the same comments "Man, why can't your girls be more like you?" Why can't you just accept a female as is and quit letting all that stuff make you uncomfortable, damn!

Diamond Life said...

You better preach girl! It's like getting hit with the double strike - black (attitude) + woman (bad attitude). I once had a guy tell me - well if it bugs you so much (the fact that he refused to clean, pick up his towel, change the roll of toilet paper), why don't you do it yourself? Uh-huh - oldest game in town. Like the lazier he gets, the more crazy I go and now I'm a nag - woo-sah, let me take deep cleansing breaths.

Think Like Riley said...

Okay but ya'll women are more emotional than men, you can't just let things slide and move on. BS is always high drama. Ya'll need to learn to let shit go, not that crucial, damn!

AndreaM said...

Riley - I don't have it in me to get you learned up everyday but lemme say what OneChele says - you need to find a better class of female to hang around with. 

Are you honestly saying that women have more emotions than men because I'm pretty sure we were given the same amount. The fact that ya'll choose not to share yours is a whole different issue. 

AndreaM said...

Co-sign Bailey - lemme get a ticket to EvolvedMaleLand, please!

Think Like Riley said...

Can't deny some women just wake up bitchy

AndreaM said...

Sure if she woke up next to you

Troy said...

LOL - you got me on the bath towels. Ma usually gets me new ones and that's when I know it's time to let the old ones go. So you are the one girl in the all guy's crew - that must mean you keep your drama quotient low and your voice at a decent decibel - not bangin' the ladies but women can get kinda screechy.

OneChele said...

This is what's commonly referred to as a back-handed compliment

CurlySue said...

Chele - you came witht he truth on this one. I literally have a different way of speaking and acting in the workplace than at home. Heaven forbid "I'm too much of a girl" there

Mocha Dude Speaks said...

I'll put on the big boy truth pants here - just about all of this is true. Be patient with us ladies, some of us are learning and doing better.

Think Like Riley said...

Lame

Velinda Miller said...

HECK.TO.THE.YEAH.!!!! BougieCousin, you have brother's, you have worked in a male dominated field, and you have lived life, you know the answer is a hands down yes. Men get away with way more mess then women can even begin to think to get away with. We do have our wiles and do have a few things that our XY friends can't but at the end of the day, the standards are doubled.

Velinda Miller said...

LOL

Pure Choco said...

Hi there, new here. It's funny, most of your posts are all calm and tame then your commenters go berserk on each other. LMAO. Anyway, bougienista in training, thank you for the term (yes, I bought T-shirt) and I don't think men are going to evolve until women make them. I know they had the thought of being trained or housebroken but really, the only way to make some one do better is to show them what they're doing wrong and show them how to do it right.

AndreaM said...

Limp?

Velinda Miller said...

Boooooo, no evolution, its the same crap, diffirent toilet.

Chloe said...

So on point, prior to marriage I made it very clear that I was no superwoman,nor would I be the longer suffering save the world black woman. My career has been very fruitful and I refuse to go on and on about certain things. You don't want to wash your laundry, or clean?  That's fine, then you pay for the housekeeper. You don't want to spend your weekends cutting grass and planting "a bunch of frickin flowers". That's fine to, pay the landscaper as well. The double standard does exist, it's all in how you deal. At work, I'm not apologizing for any of my emotions. While I'm not having lifetime movie moments, I'm not cold as ice and refuse to force myself to put up that front to make everyone else comfortable. 

OneChele said...

Andrea & Riley - play nice, kids.

Man's World said...

When we call it a man's world - it's not a knock - it's truth. The country was founder for and by men, that's jus thte way the world works. Not saying it's right - that's how it is.

daisy said...

Ain't nothin' changed and you ain't nevah lied.

CareyinCaramel said...

Man'sWorld - I so want to play a chorus of Man in the Mirror for you right now. FYI - that argument  you broke off is the same one they used for slavery and keeping black folks down.... not to get all deep on you, I now you like to swim in the shallow end of the pool. back to MJ - It's up to YOU to MAKE THAT CHANGE... sh'mon!

true2me said...

You know what? You made some excellent points with the last few sentences. Why is important for us to adapt to how they are stereotypically, but they can't adapt to us. I'd personally like to see some of those roles be readjusted and evaulated. Women are no longer as oppressed as they used to be, so some things can be more equal. Of course utimately men and women are different, but not as different as we were taught.

Apple Berry in MIA said...

Hey - shout out to Sasha for sending me to the site, LOVE it! I'm considered this big feminista bitch at work because I always make sure I am heard and understood. Apparently standing up for myself equals bra-burning radical. :-( I think things are changing because we keep reminding people that they have to

Derek Love said...

Also new to your blog. Much as hate to wade into male vs. female dynamics, unfortunately OneChele the attitudes and actions you've described still prevail all too frequently. And as Carey said below, the change has to start one man at a time. It's simple, I love the ladies and the ladies like a man who can respect them as equals and scrub a toilet, I do what I gotta do.

Derek Love said...

BTW @OneChele FTW on the haircut

Violet Rose said...

I hate the casual way that the word bitch is thrown around. Not directing this at you since you use it in context. But it's really an ugly word, people need to think about their words more carefully. And in most cases, if it's something you wouldn't want your mother or sister called, hold onto that.

Sarah said...

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You just wrote what I've been thinking for years. Can't say it, though, since then one is labelled as a complainer. Heaven forbid.

OneChele said...

You are welcome and that is SO true

OneChele said...

That's a great point, thanks and welcome.

OneChele said...

I'm assuming you saw my pic on Twitter or www.MicheleGrant.net and not stalking me! Thanks!

OneChele said...

LOL at the Man in the Mirror reference... Classic!

OneChele said...

Go girl... great comment

Citizen Ojo said...

You have a bougienista in training?  And they were worried about Obama using community service to build an army? ha ha

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