
Cradle-robber, crib-snatcher, May-to-December, Oedipus complex, Electra complex, chickenhawk, manther, Lolita, jailbait, MILF, cougar and cubs, silver foxes and sugar babies. All terms used to describe people/relationships between one older and one much younger person. Did you know that there is an actual rule of thumb about age disparity? Supposed it is socially acceptable to date someone who is half your age plus seven years. I had no idea until I researched for this post. Lemme get a calculator… hmm, interesting.
To start, let me say that I didn't know what the heck a "cougar" was until a girlfriend of mine called me one-in-training (a puma – seriously). I had to look it up. It seems that the definition has varied but apparently if you are a woman near or over 40 dating a man over 8 years younger than you, that makes you a cougar. And you stay a cougar unless you date someone your age or older… how depressing. Being a cougar always has the connotation of a sexually voracious female reaching back to a more virile (supposed) male to keep her satisfied. I ask you, would Stella have gotten that same groove back with a 55-year old stockbroker or is more compelling to bring in a young, toned dude? And speaking of Stella, let's just pause for the cause with the movie trailer (we're gonna ignore how this turned out in real life and enjoy the fiction, mkay).
Someone said there was a reality TV show about cougars and now a sitcom called Cougartown? I haven't looked at it yet, I think I'm mildly offended by the entire concept. Women get the predatory name of cougar while men are called silver foxes. The foxes are hunted and revered as a prize. The cougar is a feared carnivore. I smell a double-standard.
Men "of a certain age" are lauded and revered for getting the youngest women possible to hang on their arms, sleep in their beds and wear their rings. It takes a case as severe as Anna Nicole before people even come with the obligatory, "Eeew!" It is a literal cliché that the older some men get the younger and more blonde their women get. Please check the picture I embedded today and tell me that Mariah and Demi aren't MUCH better preserved than Larry and Donald? Shouldn't you expect women who maintain their looks and vibrant personalities to attract men of all ages? Conversely, aren't you looking at those Barbies on Larry and Donald's arms and thinking, "I hope he has a pre-nup and Viagra?" Of course you are.
Moving on, the theme of the week is live and let live. The only problem I have with age differences are when there's a creepy sex offender vibe to it. As much as I loved Aaliyah the late songstress/actress (RIP); every time I hear the song Age ain't nuthin' but a number I think of R.Kelly and his urine issues and I get a little nauseous. Don't judge me, you know R. is nasty. The whole Mary Kay LeTourneau vibe freaks me out too. Even when I was fourteen, I didn't think fourteen year old boys were sexy. Someone from yesterday's post commented that they knew a man who had his first sexual experience at eight with a sixteen-year old girl but didn't consider that molestation. Again, I gag a little when I hear stories like that. Whole different issue.
But if a 62-year old man finds a 26-year old woman willing to love him up, (eww and ick) I say go for it (get a pre-nup and don't change your life insurance). If a 72-year old woman (a la Joan Collins) can keep finding 35-year old men to give her sponge baths, (blocking the visual) I say go for it (get a pre-nup and make sure you recognize the subtle signs of arsenic poisoning). Seriously though, what have I been saying all week? Get love where you find love (or whatever passes for love in your mind, Amen).
I'll share an interesting tale of some folks I met recently. We'll call them Steve and Tina. Steve and Tina were married for ten years, divorced quite bitterly and moved on. Steve was 42 when they split, Tina was 38. Steve moved a 22-year old girl in with him soon after the divorce. Within six months of that, Tina started seeing a 25-year old male. (Can anyone else say rebound relationships?) Since Steve and Tina had children, there were those blended family outings that always seem like a good idea ahead of time but really play more like a Lifetime Movie of the Week. One great story I was told involved them all going to the Atlantis Resort in the Bahamas for Christmas. At one memorable dinner, Steve's girlfriend was carded and the waitress asked Tina if her son (her date) wanted dessert. The evening deteriorated in an epic shout match, "You're dating the babysitter!" "Well you're dating the pool boy!" before their seven and nine year old daughters had to intervene and send them to their rooms. (Parenting FAIL)
Steve sued Tina for full custody claiming she was an unfit mother for having the pool dude in the house. The judge actually said it showed "an appalling lack of judgment" for her to be dating someone so much younger than she was. Yes, Mr. Judge completely ignored the barely-outta-high-school-chick coming into court on Steve's arm. Ironic twist? After being thrown together time and again, guess who ended up hooking up? Yep, Steve's chickie and Tina's boy-toy. Less than one year later, Steve and Tina got back together.
So what's the moral to the story? I don't know I just found it both fascinating and entertaining. So, what do you say? Have you been the cougar or the cub? The fox or the sugarbaby? Any opinion on Mariah-Nick, Ashton-Demi, Larry-Shawn (his EIGHTH wife), Donald-Melania (his THIRD)? Am I right, are cougars given a bad name while foxes are applauded?
36 comments:
Okay, I now Mariah - there is a 10 year age difference between me and the S.O. It really bothered me much more than him. But I was surprised at how many of my friends were shocked, appalled, offended. What difference does it make? He's 31 and well past pup status. But people have felt free to lecture me on my "life choices" - Wow.
I am the sugar baby and I got no problems with that :)
Now let's just say it plain: Larry King looks like the damn crypt keeper, the only reason anyone would agree to be wife number 8 if for the payout. Come on now
Stella! I think all the high profile of the cougar syndrome makes it a little more acceptable for women to date younger now where as it was scandalous before - for no good reason. As for the old fellas, there is always some young chick willing to lay under some decrepit old dude. Good point though - the cougars are way better maintained than the foxes.
My double standard is reversed on this one, if there are any older babes out there holding it down like Halle, Mariah and Demi - I'm down to be that cub. Just call me Nick and pay my rent
I'm sad (or happy) to say I'm old enough to have been that sugar baby and cougar (hate the term though). And I'll fess up - sometimes it's not about the love (you know this). Sometimes it's more of an arranged agreement than a relationship. What does that make me? Resourceful.
There is def a double standard with this issue. Older men are celbrated when they catch a PYT, Women on the other hand, she outta be ashamed of dating a young cat. Too each its own. Im not fond of the dating any guy over five years older than me....too much of a generation gap. We won't even remember the same cartoons! If it's love, do you...it's just not for me!
I remember a year or so ago when I was dating this younger guy and had to explain about Rodney King. A friend of mine was like, girl that's not young, that's uninformed! At any rate, I realized when you go too young you have to explain your references. Not worth it!
Well thought I was a cougar. I only have 5 years on my CS. I still feel cougarish.
I'm not over 40 but I'm definitely in the puma-cougar category. I'm dating guy 5 - 8 years younger. For some reason, that's what I'm attracting these days. I can't be mad about it.
Well Ladies, maybe we can form a Bougie Cougar Club? Next hot reality series for Bravo!
My philosophy, date who you pull. If you got it like that, to be a 60-year old dude with 25 year olds still down, rock it. If you are a 45 year old chick and the young bucks still sniffing around, why not?
I gotta draw a line, I'll only go eight years higher or eight years younger, after that it's generational.
Go head and judge, I was with a much older guy all through college and grad school, he paid the bills. We both knew what time it was.
Also- LOL at R.Kelly and Aaliyah! Oh - and I'm enjoying Double Standards Week - how do you come up with this stuff?
I ain't stirring nuthin up today but I'm bitin my tongue on Eye Candy and Queen. Ya'll can dress it up if ya like. Where were all the hot cougars when I was trying to get on the hustle? I see ya tho, do your thang
After my Mom and Dad divorced, he married a woman two years younger than me. That caused me issues. She wanted us to be pals AND she borrowed my clothes. As you say, OneChele - ew, ick! they got divorced two years later and she get ridic alimony now more than 3x what my mom gets. No justice, no peace!
I'm with Dat Dude, it doesn't bug me to see an older woman with a younger men but that Larry King picture makes me cringe. I'll do better.
You make an excellent point: Demi and Mariah look great, Larry and Donald - not so much. So is that what is is, to be a cougar you have to have great looks, great body, to be a fox you have to have money?
Yep, I think that's pretty much the rule.
LOL at the Crypt Keeper!
Did you peek into my world? My ex and I split, he picked up a 20-year old co-ed and I went with a 27 year old buppie type. We had the same disastrous vacation but things turned out okay for me, no so much for him. The 20-year old bailed on him mid-vacation, last seen with the scuba guy... (laughs evilly)
Agree! If I gotta explain the inside of the inside joke about gumby hair cuts it aint gonna work!!
Alright then, I don't hate on the cradle-snatchers. If they like it, I love it. But I will agree with you that men seem to get away with it as "accepted behavior" while women are still judged.
Yes, StepMommy borrowing your clothes might have been a little over the top
I don't know OneChele, I'd much rather see Nick and Mariah or Demi and Ashton on the beach than Larry and Donald in swim trunks. Aesthetically, I'm gonna say - go Cougars, go!
First. Great post!
I have to say, those images in my head were not the most exciting...
I didn't know there were specifics to these terms lol, and I guess I am out of the loop because I wasn't even aware of the term silver foxes! Like most instances though, double standards exists so much in gender relations that it is not even questioned in a court of law (reference to your "shades on" judge in the story)
I have to agree that Demi has kept herself well maintained. Mariah...I mean does she look like she aged? Nooo...but do I say OOO Mariah like I said when Dream Lover came out? Maybe yes, but only right before I avert my eyes or flip the channel. I don't know what it is about her right now, but she has grown less appealing to me through the years.
As far as age...I can't really agree on the "to each his/her own" principle, because I just feel like at a certain point, the age gap is just too silly to believe that you can literally be from two different generations, and yet have the same tastes, the same compatibilities, the physical attractions, and the same thoughts on intimacy towards one another. I mean i just can't see it when the one person is like 60 and the other person is like 22.
That's definitely it. I never seen hot, younger chicks with a broke older man. I've also never seen a hot older women with an ugly, younger man. It's like the French film 'Priceless'.
I say date whomever you like. But if your partner is really your sugar daddy/mommy, then keep it real. Call it what it is.
The whole couger term is so played out now. Can we please evolve and move on?
When I was 19 or 20, I had a 50 year old French woman who'd always take me out and buy me things.
She was a very attractive woman but she was too old to have kids.
(That, and she was married. I don't do married.)
I think this may be the difference.
Young man + old woman = no kids.
Old man + young woman (+viagra) = kids.
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